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Author:  Cal [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:40 am ]
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a Gorebyss set:

{gorebyss} @ lefties/shell bell
ability: Swift Swim
EVs:252 SA, 252 SPD, 6 HP
nature: Modest (-ATK / +SA)

moveset:

Surf
Ice Beam / Psychic
Confuse Ray
Agility / Rain Dance


it's pretty basic, but what do ya think?

:EDIT:
is this set the set at the "moveset" page on the psydex, sure hope it ain't.

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:55 pm ]
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It's similar to the set(s) already in the guide. Like tiger10x said, we're working on improving the movesets in the guide, so improvements in some of the more outdated sets will be done soon enough =)

Author:  pelligargetic [ Sun May 21, 2006 8:38 pm ]
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The second Cacturne set has no EV spread.

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Mon May 22, 2006 4:57 am ]
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Fixed, but I'm not sure if that's the best possible EV Spread; I'll review it again once the planned update is completed (yes, I know we've been speaking of it for some time now, but we're busy people, so please forgive us =p)

Author:  pelligargetic [ Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:34 pm ]
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The Hariyama set has a Timid nature; I think you mean Jolly or Adamant?

sN0w: Fixed, June 27, 2006, 7:40pm, GMT +0800 >.>

Author:  tiger10x [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:23 pm ]
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sN0wBaLL and I have just completed an extensive overhaul of the entire guide. In the months it took to do, I think all we really needed was just a few weeks and some well-placed extra time on our hands. I honestly don't feel like listing all of the sets that have been updated like it has normally been done in past updates to the guide, but then again, I don't feel like typing the name of each fully-evolved Pokemon again. :P

Enjoy!

Author:  daveshan [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:06 am ]
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We will. Thanks.

Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:54 pm ]
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Put in a McIceGar

Substitute
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Shadow Ball/Sludge Bomb

From Tiger: Current Mixed Sweeping Gengar edited minorly.

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:37 pm ]
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*UPDATE*

Following the major overhaul we have had recently, Pokemon icons and moveset descriptions have been added to each of the movesets in the guide. Some minor errors have also been fixed. If you spot any, please do post here to let us know.

Meanwhile, enjoy the update! :wink:

Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:14 pm ]
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Use my all-out-attacking Jirachi:

Jirachi @Leftovers
252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
~Psychic
~Ice Punch
~T-bolt
~Water Pulse

I use it in netbattle, and I think its suited for regular in-game.

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:49 am ]
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Once again I emphasize that the movesets in the guide are just suggested movesets. The guide is not meant to be an exhuastive list for all movesets that work well. There are many more variations for each Pokemon that would work equally well. Your Jirachi set is simply a variation of a Special Sweeping version, so while it works well, there's no real need to add it into the guide. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.

Author:  Loco_Ludicolo [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:47 pm ]
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What is a Sub Puncher? You use Substitute then Focus Punch so you auto amtically hit?

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:59 am ]
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Loco_Ludicolo wrote:
What is a Sub Puncher? You use Substitute then Focus Punch so you auto amtically hit?


Yep, it's something like that. For more information you might want to check out the Battling Roles Guide, which can be found here: http://www.psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4690

Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:16 pm ]
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This may not seem important, but can you guys fix the sandslash picture? Its a farfetch'd (so hard when sandslash movesets are needed)

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:22 am ]
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Well you could have used ctrl+f to search for "sandslash". That'll lead you straight to the relevant moveset. Use the find function when searching for Pokemon movesets in the future :wink:

Anyway, thanks for notifying us about the error. The image has been fixed.

Author:  Bushin [ Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:17 am ]
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Hey !
Good job.
i think of use some of them ...
You can give some idea for a powerfull and outstand moveset for these ones?...
{typhlosion} {lanturn} {dragonite} {starmie} {flareon} {scizor}

Author:  tiger10x [ Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:59 am ]
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Go to the first page and use the find control (Ctrl + F) and search for the names of each of those Pokemon. You actually could have looked at the post before yours to find that out it, too.

Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:30 pm ]
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For the second blaziken moveset (dancer/bulk-up), here's a recommended change:

~Swords Dance/Bulk Up
~Flamethrower / Fire Blast / Overheat
~Brick Break / Sky Uppercut
~Rock Slide

Whats being EQ'ed? Other fires? Rock Slide deals with that. A muk/swalot? Please, there are better counters. Electrics? Again, better counters.

Rock Slide deals with flyers, other fires, Gengar, etc.

Aerial Ace has no use with Flamethrower (Bug, Grass both dealt with).

Author:  JsXtm [ Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:33 pm ]
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Being EQ's is being hit with one of the most powerful moves in the game, Earthquake. Rock Slide only deals with flyers, and is actually bad against ground. Also, your set adds a Fire move, which doesn't fit with the Physical Sweeperness. Also, Rock Slide is also mentioned as one of the options for the third slot, so your moveset is definitely not better than the current second option, the Physical sweeper.

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:41 am ]
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sN0wBaLL wrote:
Once again I emphasize that the movesets in the guide are just suggested movesets. The guide is not meant to be an exhuastive list for all movesets that work well. There are many more variations for each Pokemon that would work equally well. Your Jirachi set is simply a variation of a Special Sweeping version, so while it works well, there's no real need to add it into the guide. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.


Thanks for the suggestion, but your moveset is more like a combination of the existing sets. Unless there new idea somewhere in a suggested set, or if the Pokemon can fulfill another Battling Role (and be effective at that), it's unlikely that a new set will be added.

In the meantime, everyone is still free to use their own variations of Pokemon movesets.

Author:  Magic Umbreon [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:23 am ]
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Would a dunsparce be good with these moves:

Rock Slide
Headbutt
Bite
Thunder Wave

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:19 pm ]
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I would suggest you enquire about such things in the Rating Center: http://www.psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=261

Anyway, your Dunsparce has split EVs since it has Bite, a Special Attack, and two Physical Attacks. It's better to specialise in just one Battling Role.

Author:  Magic Umbreon [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:23 pm ]
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Why? Surely coverage of ghosts that resist Headbutt is a real asset; definetly worth the lower EVs.

252 EVs in attack = 63 points
252 speed = 63 points
6 spare

129 in sp. atk = 32
same in speed

So 32 less power in the atk. stat gives coverage of more pok

Author:  sN0wBaLL [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:33 am ]
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I personally don't go for coverage of specific types. As long as a moveset has moves that can hit all Pokemon types, it would be good enough. Hence, since Rock Slide would be able to hit Ghosts without being super effective, it's good enough for me. The EVs can then be concentrated on Attack.

It's your personal preference though. Like we've always said these movesets in the guide are merely suggested ones. There are many variations which will work too.

Author:  Peanut-Lover [ Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:27 pm ]
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Don't kill me for these ludicolo sets, here me out...

{ludicolo} @Lefties
Timid/Modest Natures, Swift Swim
~Sunny Day
~Synthesis
~Solar Beam
~Fire Punch
A Sunny beam-synth with fire punch. No others can do that. Clafable and sableye could do moonlight, but iirc, its power changes w/ time.
Swift Swim, so that if a rain dancer comes out, you can speed up and use sunny day.

{ludicolo} @Lefties
~Rain Dance
~Leech Seed
~Mega Drain (for pp)/Giga Drain (power)
~Ice Beam/S-toss/Surf/Dive

The one you have is more annoying than draining.

Thats it!

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