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Author:  TonberryKing [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:48 am ]
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Just so that everyone knows, I've added this awesome guide to the site template here: http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~psypoke/de ... battle.php

You'll notice that not all teams made it to the Pokemon section on there, and I'm sorry, but I simply just got lazy.. there were so many :shock: Dr DoubleDuel, if you think I should put up a certain team on there, or if I need to make a change, please tell me.

You'll also note I've added a section to the guide, that's "Technical Details" which is just a small paragraph explaning the workings of the game as it processes double battles.
Author:  Venumeleon [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:44 am ]
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Yay, mine got in. Thanks so much TonberryKing!
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:01 am ]
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Wow, I never made any guide so popular before. Lol :D. Thank you SOOOO much TonberryKing. And yes, I will inform you every once in a while when there are changes to be made.
Author:  Benjamin [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:09 pm ]
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Hmm...the following set is pretty basic:

{kyogre}@leftovers
(drizzle)
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice beam
Body Slam

{ludicolo}@leftovers
(rain dish)
Leech Seed
Giga Drain
Toxic
[a damaging move goes here]

Ludicolo satays alive for a long time with drizzle+rain dish+leech seed+giga drain, and he can wear down one (or both) opponants at a time. For fire and flying pokes who think they are pretty clever and try to attack ludicolo, kyogre can take care of them. They are both weak to electric, and I suppose you could replace something on kyogre and teach him earthquake to make short work of electriks. Even if ludicolo does take a few hits, his combination will keep him going.
Author:  Venumeleon [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:56 pm ]
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It looks good. Of course, something that eats special attacks, like Blissey or Muk will probably do some damage to you (not to mention Blissey has T-Bolt for Kyogre and Muk can Sludge Bomb Ludi).

Generally, it's a good annoy set. Not to sure about Body Slam on Kyogre. For Ludi's last move, you might want to try Surf or Dive.
Author:  Benjamin [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:14 pm ]
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Hmm...dive would be good to slurp up the health. And you could do double surf to sweep through.

I'll look up kyogre to see what I could put over body slam.
Author:  RaichuLatias [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:48 pm ]
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Water Pokemon Master wrote:
Hmm...the following set is pretty basic:

{kyogre}@leftovers
(drizzle)
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice beam
Body Slam

{ludicolo}@leftovers
(rain dish)
Leech Seed
Giga Drain
Toxic
[a damaging move goes here]

Ludicolo satays alive for a long time with drizzle+rain dish+leech seed+giga drain, and he can wear down one (or both) opponants at a time. For fire and flying pokes who think they are pretty clever and try to attack ludicolo, kyogre can take care of them. They are both weak to electric, and I suppose you could replace something on kyogre and teach him earthquake to make short work of electriks. Even if ludicolo does take a few hits, his combination will keep him going.


I'd try,
{kyogre} @ Leftovers
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder
Calm Mind

{ludicolo} @ Leftovers
Razor Leaf
Surf
Body Slam
Swagger (Emerald)


Ludicolo will use Body Slam and Swagger to stall while Kyogre uses Calm Mind to build up.

Kyogre's Attack stinks so don't bother with EQ. Kyogre's Calm Mind raises defenses so Electric and Grass attack do less damage. And Electric attacks are normal effective on Ludicolo because of it's half grass type.

And if I remember right, Razor Leaf effects both pokemon (I think it keeps it's base damage) and it has better PP than Giga Drain.
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:09 pm ]
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Sooo... What is the conclusion? I need a choice for the team, so I can post it on the guide.
Author:  Venumeleon [ Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:13 pm ]
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I'd say the 1st one with a few modifications. The 2nd Ludi is... unpredictable. Ludi isn't a very good sweeper. Plus, RL hits both Pokemon, but becomes half powered (plus STAB, that becomes around 54pwr, 1 less than original :P )

Anything on Venu/Ninetales?
Author:  RaichuLatias [ Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:12 pm ]
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Venumeleon wrote:
The 2nd Ludi is... unpredictable. Ludi isn't a very good sweeper.


Actually Ludi is there to stall while Kyogre builds up and Sweeps.

RaichuLatias wrote:
Ludicolo will use Body Slam and Swagger to stall while Kyogre uses Calm Mind to build up.


Razor Leaf and Surf are just there to cause some extra damage while the opponents are confused/paralyzed. I thought of doing Toxic instead of Body Slam, but it doesn't help Kyogre out much.


Dr.DoubleDuel wrote:
Sooo... What is the conclusion? I need a choice for the team, so I can post it on the guide.


I guess it's up to you, You could just choose whatever one you like the most.


Venumeleon wrote:
RL hits both Pokemon, but becomes half powered (plus STAB, that becomes around 54pwr, 1 less than original)


Ok, thanks I didn't know that about Razor Leaf. It's still better (in my opinion) than Giga Drain.
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:03 pm ]
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Uh... I am still confused...

Anyway, I have been on a vacation trip for 3 days. I haven't been on lately, to let you know...
Author:  RaichuLatias [ Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:21 pm ]
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Dr.DoubleDuel wrote:
Uh... I am still confused...

Anyway, I have been on a vacation trip for 3 days. I haven't been on lately, to let you know...


You could put both, just i'm not sure if there should be 2 sets with the same pokes.

I have another Double Battle set.

{tropius} {Chlorophyll} @ Leftovers

Body Slam
Synthesis
Solarbeam
Attract/Swagger

{groudon} {Drought} @ Leftovers

Ancientpower/Rock Slide
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance


Tropius will stall with Body Slam and Attract/Swagger (Emerald), while Groudon powers up with Swords Dance. Groudon will sweep with Earthquake, Aerial Ace, Ancientpower or Rock Slide when it's attack is maxed. Tropius will be able to recover well with Synthesis, attack with Solar Beam And Tropius will get extra speed thanks to it's ability and Groudon's Drought
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:22 pm ]
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Okie Dokie
Author:  Venumeleon [ Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:24 pm ]
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It's a good set, albeit risky. Tropius's speed is still low despite Chlorophyll, and if Attract/Swagger doesn't work or Body Slamd fails to PAR, then a Ice Beam could knock out Tropius and you're left with Groudon. But that's pretty situational.
Author:  KidTijid [ Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:29 pm ]
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Hmm... couldnt ya put Groundon with a Pokemon with Flashfire like Ninetales.. i know the problem would be if theres water Pokemon around and such but Ninetales is fast and you can have Ninetales the annoyer and focus on putting statuses on the water pokemon... thought the EQ wouldnt be good...
Author:  leet for [ Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:02 am ]
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Flash Fire, Inner Focus, Minus, Plus, Shadow Tag and Wonder Guard spaced too much :!:
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:01 pm ]
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leet for wrote:
Flash Fire, Inner Focus, Minus, Plus, Shadow Tag and Wonder Guard spaced too much :!:


I know. I tried to put it underneath the text, but whenever I editted it, the Rating and text went all on one line, and that looks ugly. I just placed it one space lower, since I cannot do anything about it.
Author:  DragonPhoenix [ Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:09 pm ]
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what about a double team with two starters?

Charizard
Flamethrower
aerial ace
dragon claw
sunny day

Scepile
Detect
Substitute
solarbeam
earthquake
Author:  RaichuLatias [ Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:16 pm ]
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{raichu} @ Leftovers
Surf
Attract
Thunder
Sweet Kiss

{gengar} @ Shell Bell
Rain Dance
Will-O-Wisp
Thunder
HP Water

Raichu will start with Attract or Sweet Kiss, while Gengar uses Rain Dance.
Raichu will then attack with Thunder or Surf while Gengar Burns them with Will-O-Wisp. Pretty Simple though you may have trouble with Grass types and Shedinja.

Dr.DoubleDuel wrote:
leet for wrote:
Flash Fire, Inner Focus, Minus, Plus, Shadow Tag and Wonder Guard spaced too much :!:


I know. I tried to put it underneath the text, but whenever I editted it, the Rating and text went all on one line, and that looks ugly. I just placed it one space lower, since I cannot do anything about it.


What exactly do you want it like?
Like this?

Dr.DoubleDuel wrote:
Flash Fire- Prevents fire damage from fire-type attacks and increases power of Pokemon's fire-type attacks. Can be a fire Pokemon's best friend. Try to handle it though in a 2v2 Battle.
~Rating: ***
Author:  Benjamin [ Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:33 pm ]
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That one sounds good, raichulatias.
Author:  leet for [ Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:43 pm ]
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dr.doubleduel

i've pmed you some text
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:12 am ]
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Cool! Thank leet for and RaichuLatias. How do you guys do that? Anyway, I will add the teams later. Stupid school... -.-
Author:  leet for [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:41 pm ]
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Dr.DoubleDuel wrote:
Cool! Thank leet for and RaichuLatias. How do you guys do that? Anyway, I will add the teams later. Stupid school... -.-
all i did was take out the spaces beforethe end of the sentise and then pressed delete and it moved.

EDIT you still have school
Author:  Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:12 am ]
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leet for wrote:
Dr.DoubleDuel wrote:
Cool! Thank leet for and RaichuLatias. How do you guys do that? Anyway, I will add the teams later. Stupid school... -.-
all i did was take out the spaces beforethe end of the sentise and then pressed delete and it moved.

EDIT you still have school


Sorry... I have playing other video games lately.
Author:  Benjamin [ Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:21 pm ]
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