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Author:	Venumeleon [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:19 am ]
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@ Leftovers Surf Ice Beam Thunderbolt Confuse Ray @ Lum Berry Spore Aromatherapy Light Screen HP Bug Parasect serves as the supporter, using Spore to inflict sleep and Aromatherapy to heal Lanturn of status. HP Bug pretty much serves as an attack, dealing with Lanturn's weakness to Grass types. Light Screen helps it to live longer. Lanturn serves as the attacker, and still covers most of Parasect's weaknesses handily (vice versa). Boltbeam+Surf will hurt many Pokemon, plus covers many of the team's weaknesses. Confuse Ray helps to stall for a bit more time. I think Thunder Wave may be substituted for one of the attacks if you're worried about Sleep Clause.

Author:	Groudon King [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:17 pm ]
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@ leftovers Ability Sand Stream Moves Crunch Thunder Rock Slide Blizzard @ brightpowder Ability Clear Body Moves Meteor Mash Psychic Shadow Ball Brick Break This team is offencive. Neither Tyranitar or Metagross is affected by the Sand Stream ability that Tyranitar has. (and I believe that Dr.DoubleDuel wondered which pokemon uses it) Metagross can take care of fighting, ice, normal, dark, poison, psychic and rock pokemon, and Tyranitar can take care of fire, water, flying, bug, grass, psychic, ghost, ground, dragon, and ice pokemon.

Author:	Kari Kagome & Mewtwo [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:40 pm ]
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@;leftovers Surf, Psychic, Thunder Wave, Protect/Icebeam @;leftovers Flatter, Earthquake, Rock slide, Helping Hand/FILLER An old combo, but can still work if used right. Have Nidoking use Flatter on slowbro, its as simple as that. Slowbro paralyzes while Nidoking Flatters Slowbro and boosts Slowbro's SA. Then let loose with Surf/Psychic and watch the fun begin. Recommended to have Nidoking use Helping Hand only when Slowbro uses Surf, just to make up for the fact Surf's base power is halved in 2vs2. Have Slowbro protect when Nido uses earthquake if slowbro has it.

Author:	sN0wBaLL [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:10 pm ]
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@Leftovers Return Shadow Ball Curse/Brick Break Slack Off @Leftovers Skill Swap Rest Calm Mind Will-o-wisp Use Skill Swap on Slaking to get Truant off Slaking and on Dusclops, use Curse to increase Slaking's Attack stats and then attack using Slaking while tanking with Dusclops. Will-o-wisp for annoyance and to reduce Attack of the opponent.

Author:	papersun [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:02 pm ]
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Well, I guess I'll throw my hat in the ring . . . Starmie @ Lefties/Petaya Berry Natural Cure Modest Nature 252 SA, 252 Spd, 6 HP ~Surf ~Ice Beam ~Psychic ~Thunder Kingdra @ Lefties Swift Swim Modest Nature 252 HP, 129 SD, 129 Def ~Rain Dance ~Dragonbreath ~HP Grass/Dark ~Surf Not very strategic, just Sweepage on a large scale. Unfortunately, it does nothing against a Snorlax or a Slacking.

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:35 pm ]
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Grrr... Stupid school. Sux... 0_0. Okay Okay, as soon as I get free time.

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:19 pm ]
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All: Okay guys, I majorly updated the Teams with all of your submitted teams. Phew... that took a while... papersun: You need a description for your team dude. I need a reason why they are a good sweeper team. For example, "Starmie is good because he can take on fire, rock, ground, grass, dragon, dark, bug, flying, water, and normal types".

Author:	papersun [ Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:33 pm ]
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I figured Sweeping was descriptive enough, but okay. The two of them together can take on Fire, Rock, Ground, Steel, Ice, Dragon, Grass, Water, Flying, Fighting, Poison, Ghost, and Psychic. Also, most Bugs are part Poison or part Flying.

Author:	Achilles [ Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:05 am ]
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Well, this is a way of stalling I came up with: Ludicolo@Leftovers [Bold nature] 252 HP, 129 Sp Def, 129 Def Rain Dish Ability - Rain Dance - Toxic - Leech Seed - Dive Gorebyss@Petaya Berry [Timid nature] 252 Sp Att, 129 Spd, 129 Def Swift Swim ability - Confuse Ray - Surf - Ice Beam - Psychic Ludicolo uses Toxic and Leech Seed on both opponents after he Raindanced Gorebyss upto speed and so his Rain Dish kicks in. Gorebyss can confuse the Seeded and Poisoned oponents if needed and he is fast enough to make a hell of a sweeper. Ludicolo regains a lot of health due to the double Leech Seed, Rain Dance and Leftovers. This team does not work as great against some types of opponents, but then again, which team does As for the Sweepers: Gengar@Petaya Berry [Timid nature] 252 Spd, 252 Sp Att, 6 HP - Psychic - Thunderbolt - Giga Drain - Destiny Bond Dugtrio@Lum Berry [Jolly nature] 252 Spd, 252 Att, 6 Def - Earthquake - Aerial Ace - Rock Slide - HP Ghost This team sweeps about anything and with Arena Trap and Destiny Bond it can be a pain. It completely pwns the common Swampert/Charrizard combo and many others. This is FR/LG though.

Author:	Kari Kagome & Mewtwo [ Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:54 pm ]
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Leftovers Bold Nature Follow Me, Softboiled, Seismictoss, Thunderwave or Follow Me, Softboiled, Calm Mind, Ice Beam Salac Berry Adamant Nature Belly Drum, Substitute, Earthquake, Hidden Power Flying The infamous Fablezard combo. Basically, Clefable uses Follow Me while Charizard uses Substitute, then Follow Me again and Charizard Belly Drums this time. Try to have Charizard's HP EVs set up so that its HP is perfectly divisible by 4, that way once it Belly Drums, Salac Berry will activate at 25% HP, making charizard not only have the equivalent of 3 Swords Dances, but have close to 450 speed and a Substitute still up. Charizard Can then go on a sweeping rampage. The only thing that can possibly mess up this combo badly is if Clefable goes down before Charizard can Drum or if a multitarget move (Rock Slide) is used. The Clefable moveset is entirely up to you (JSYK, Clefable does learn Softboiled, but Moonlight also works.) Personally I prefer the Thunderwave set, but alot of people I know have tried the Calm Mind version of the Follow Me Fable and claimed it works, so I'll add that as well.

Author:	papersun [ Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:49 pm ]
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If it was me and I had myself a Drumzard, I wouldn't use an Adamant Nature, I'd use Jolly, because then you have more Speed and your attack is going to be 999 anyway.

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sat Dec 18, 2004 6:10 am ]
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Horray! I got a sticky . Oh! I'm so happy !

Author:	Groudon King [ Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:42 pm ]
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I came up with a new team pair, @ Brightpowder Ability= Sturdy Moves Earthquake Thunder Wave Rock Slide Double Team @ Brightpowder Ability= Speed Boost Moves Facade Swords Dance Double Team Shadow Ball With Earthquake then only the opponents suffer when it can't touch Ninjask. Nosepass' Thunder Wave used on Ninjask, Facade will be more powerfull and Speed Boost will give Ninjask the speed it lost. With Brightpowder and Double Team on both, they will be nearly untouchable. And Swords Dance will increace Facade and Shadow Ball's power.

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:15 pm ]
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Yay! We finally reached 30 Teams. Great job guys !

Author:	Groudon King [ Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:20 pm ]
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OK, I'm not stopping there.... @ Quick Claw ability= Clear Body Moves Any Ice Attack Superpower Curse Protect @ Leftovers ability= Inner Focus Moves Toxic Confuse Ray Screech Haze I'm not really sure if this is a good combo, but I'll let you be the judge. With the ice attack Regice has it gains that extra power it needs. With Curse Regice will gain the power it will loose in Superpower, and Quick Claw may help since it might go first. With Crobat, he/she poisons the enemy with Toxic followed by Confuse Ray then Screech (this will make the enemy attack itself but will do more damage with every Screech attack and with Toxic's power the opponent goes down quickly). Then if Regice's speed is very low and Toxic will finish the enemy then Crobat can use Haze to help heal Regice so they can be ready for the next fight. P.S. (I hope this is good enough. Personally I'm the offensive kind of guy who just give his Pokemon different kinds of attacks.)

Author:	leet for [ Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:59 pm ]
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i changed my first post

Author:	Benjamin [ Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:59 pm ]
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Lol heres a beginner team: Tackle Tail whip Growl Headbut Scratch Growl Focus Energy Ember Okay, first growl both. Then next turn have use focus energy and tail whip. Next have continue tail whipping and attack with scratch or ember. Fairly strong for begginers. Plus, you'll get a free item! Why did everyone disappear?

Author:	Achilles [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:30 am ]
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I don't know if this has been submitted yet: Nidoqueen@Leftovers [Impish nature] 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def - Flatter - Attract - Substitute - Sludge Bomb Slowbro@Leftovers [Modest nature] 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Att Own Tempo - Amnesia - Surf - Ice Beam - Psychic With Flatter and Own Tempo you can max out slowbro's special attack in 3 truns, amnesia does the same for special defense. When Slowbro is powered up use Nidoqueen to attract and Sub which will annoy the opponent to bits while you pwn everyone with Slowbro. Slowbro works better then Slowking since Slowbro has better defense. Nidoqueen

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:38 am ]
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Groudon King wrote: P.S. (I hope this is good enough. Personally I'm the offensive kind of guy who just give his Pokemon different kinds of attacks.) I don't judge the Teams on how they are good or how they function. I am just the person that places them on the guide. If you can tell if you read the NOTES, one of them says that the other forum members should critique your Team. If they feel as if it is not ready yet, they would either PM you or tell me. When they PM you, tell me, and I will change it.

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:43 am ]
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Groudon King- Oh, and please do not add colors. It makes it easy with just white. Water Pokemon Master- Hahaha, that looks fun. We should have more LLD's (Low Level Duels). I'm adding this . Achilles- It is okay if someone already submitted a team like yours. Just make sure your movesets and descriptions are different. Anyway... Please do not add the stats. The forum memebers can handle their stats themselves .

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:02 am ]
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leet for wrote: i changed my first post Did you want me to change it or make a new Team?

Author:	Achilles [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:26 am ]
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With stat do you mean i shouldn't add EV spreads? Because they are pretty importent.

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:32 am ]
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Achilles wrote: With stat do you mean i shouldn't add EV spreads? Because they are pretty importent. Uh... what??? Ludicolo@Leftovers [Bold nature] 252 HP, 129 Sp Def, 129 Def Rain Dish Ability - Rain Dance - Toxic - Leech Seed - Dive I am talking about the line in orange. I do not think it is necessary, since everyone can handle their own Pokemon's stats.

Author:	Achilles [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:50 am ]
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Those are the EV's you should give the Pok

Author:	Dr.DoubleDuel [ Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:04 am ]
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Achilles wrote: Those are the EV's you should give the Pok

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