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I know this place is deader that a Duskull... but why not? This is my current team, basically unchanged pokemon-wise for over a year.

Team at a glance:
Aromatisse -Support TR setter
Hariyama -Bulky Attacker
Amoonguss -Sleeper/Redirect
Doublade -TR Attacker/Anti-gimmick
Rotom-H - Offensive/Burn support
M-Gyarados -DD Attacker


So this team was built for VGC15/Ranked/Triples play. It follows a mild TR playstyle while still keeping a few fast elements and anti-stall moves. Was also made to have Doublade function well within it.

Sucrose (Aromatisse) (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Aroma Veil
Level: 50
EVs: 244 HP / 220 Def / 44 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Trick Room
- Protect
- Moonblast
- Swagger

*Sets up TR for team
*Swagger sets up Amoonguss's Foul Play and denies turns to anything Aroma or it's ally can't hurt.
*Lum leaves only Flinch capable to stop 1st turn TR
*Aroma Veil blocks taunt/encore for itself and ally.

EVs
Defense:
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head 174-205 (84 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Iron Head 180-212 (86.9 - 102.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Sludge Bomb 168-200 (81.1 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


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Shichimi (Hariyama) (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Def / 28 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Ice Punch
- Rock Slide
- Close Combat

*Fake out helps Aromatisse set up TR
*High attack power and coverage
*Low enough speed to be quick in TR but fast enough to be quick against other TR teams
*Immune to burn's attack drop

Evs
Defense
252 SpA Mega Pidgeot Hurricane 186-218 (84.5 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird (82.7 - 98.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Gardevoir Moonblast 186-218 (84.5 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Overheat in Sun: 184-217 (83.6 - 98.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Offensive
-1 Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Landorus-T: 132-156 (80 - 94.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Rock Slide vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 164-196 (106.4 - 127.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Kangaskhan: 216-254 (119.3 - 140.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Speed
4 Spe ensures Fake out against other Hariyama and -Spe Scrafty

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Truffle (Amoonguss) (F) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 244 HP / 212 Def / 52 SpD
Bold Nature
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Clear Smog
- Foul Play

*Spore.... zzzzzz...
*Rage Powder can help Aroma set up TR, Gyarados/Doublade to boost. or Hariyama/Rotom-H to strike.
*Foul play gives some surprise power and combos with Aroma's Swag
*Clear Smog gives a odd utility removing stat boosts from opponents or allies.
*Regenerator helps Amoonguss switch away and recover. with Gyarados+Rotom forming an effective FWG core

EVs
Defense
252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge 142-169 (64.5 - 76.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (w/ Sitrus can survive at 52%HP)
252 SpA Thundurus Hidden Power Ice 76-90 (34.5 - 40.9%) 4HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Zen Headbutt 186-218 (84.5 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough 177-209 (80.4 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Politoed Ice Beam 90-108 (40.9 - 49%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO
156+ SpA Ludicolo Ice Beam 90-108 (40.9 - 49%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO
4 SpA Cresselia Psychic 92-110 (41.8 - 50%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
Offence
Clear Smog vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Breloom: 74-90 (54.8 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Clear Smog vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Whimsicott: 132-156 (79 - 93.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 174-206 (104.1 - 123.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Metagross: 84-100 (53.8 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Swagplay
+2 Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Landorus-T: 141-166 (85.4 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
+2 Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 96-114 (61.9 - 73.5%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
+2 Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Metagross: 166-196 (106.4 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO


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Chef's Knife (Doublade) (M) @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 244 HP / 172 Atk / 92 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Shadow Sneak
- Gyro Ball
- Swords Dance
- Sacred Sword

*Shadow Sneak gives much needed priority
*Gyro Ball hits any non-TR team hard
*Sacred Sword for coverage
*Swords dance to help clean up with Shadow sneak or counter a opponent's protect in late turns of TR.
*Does well against stall sets such as Minimize Chansey, SS Shuckle, Clefable, and Perish Trap due to Ghost typing/No Guard

Evs
Defense
252 SpA Gengar Shadow Ball 134-162 (81.2 - 98.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Heatran Heat Wave 134-158 (81.2 - 95.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) 109-133 (66 - 80.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake 72-86 (43.6 - 52.1%) -- 8.6% chance to 2HKO
Offence
-1 Gyro Ball (148 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Landorus-T: 84-100 (50.9 - 60.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO(OHKO at +1)
Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Kangaskhan: 96-114 (53 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Sacred Sword vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 192-228 (136.1 - 161.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Gyro Ball (122 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Terrakion: 210-248 (125.7 - 148.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Gyro Ball (55 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 122-146 (60.6 - 72.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Gyro Ball (123 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 144-171 (105.8 - 125.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO(SS OHKOs at+1)
Gyro Ball (115 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gardevoir: 254-302 (176.3 - 209.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Convection (Rotom-Heat) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
Modest Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat

*Overheat is it's nuke attack
*T-bolt for reliable STAB damage
*WoW cripples and deals chip damage when Overheat been used or to avoid LO damage.
*Protect to scout, Pyrostall and guard from M-Gyarados's EQ

Evs
HP
hit 129 HP rounding LO damage to 12hp
Offence
Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 165-195 (100 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus: 165-195 (106.4 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Amoonguss: 226-268 (102.2 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Overheat vs. 252 HP / 128 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 174-211 (104.1 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Thunderbolt vs. 196 HP / 12 SpD Azumarill: 221-265 (110.5 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 172-203 (112.4 - 132.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 91-109 (54.4 - 65.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Speed
Outpaces Max base 70's by 1. (Politoed, Ludicolo, Breloom, Metagross)

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Gunkanmaki (Gyarados) (M) @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate/Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 228 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake

*Intimidate support is a great boost to Aromatisse/Amoonguss
*Can outpace most offensive teams under TR and DD on the last turn when oppoents like to protect, keeping momentum.
*Waterfall for STAB and flinch
*EQ for spread and dealing with Rotom-W
*Ice fang for coverage against M-Salamence and the genies.
*Mold Breaker can ignore Storm Drain, Levitate users.

Evs
M-Gyarados offence
Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 164-194 (98.2 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO (EQ is 122%min)
Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 44 Def Rotom-W: 98-116 (62.4 - 73.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (91%-108% at +1)
Ice Fang vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 196-232 (117.3 - 138.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ice Fang vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Salamence: 152-180 (88.8 - 105.2%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
Ice Fang vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 124-148 (80 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 Waterfall vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 156-186 (101.9 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Speed
130 puts Gyara above Max Heatran but 1 point below the Max 80's group so he'll outpace in TR.
+1 outside of TR puts him above Max base 125

Lead Combinations:

Aroma/Hariyama

With this set I can reliably set up TR as Hari can prevent a double target with Fake Out. Once TR is up Hari can sweep while Aroma cleans up with Moonblast or Swags any walls. This set is also used against other Fake out leads as they are forced to either FO Hari to keep their partner safe from hari's FO.

Aroma/Amoonguss

This set helps get TR up against defensive teams or shuts out other TR teams from putting it up. In either case SporeSwag shuts them down with Foul play/Moonblast for damage.

Aroma/Rotom

This combo is best against Rain/Sun teams as rotom can Volt Switch/overheat huge damage and jump away to Gyara/Hari to finish while aroma protects or sets up TR. This combo also works well against some offensive teams with Bisharp/Lando/Aegislash. Rotom can quickly pressure/remove these threats and switch to a TR attacker when Aroma sets up.

Videos:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/battl ... -268304312
Started with Hariyama/Rotom-H since Rotom could OHKO most of the team, then set up TR late.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/battl ... -268427578
Against fairly balanced team, was surprised that Drought boosted Fire Blast can OHKO Aromatisse
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/battl ... -268429598
My issues with smeargle here, but otherwise my usual Aroma/Hari lead. (Also an angry youtuber)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/battl ... -268434826
Aroma/Rotom lead, then Amoonguss attacking w/ Swagplays
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2015-276736069
More Spore/Swagplays


Last edited by MasonTheChef on Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:41 am, edited 13 times in total.



Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:33 am
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Lol that angry youtuber. Well, nice team, nice to see that it's still viable after all those years.

On my side, I've been doing a few online battles on Omega Ruby, and it's just so sad. I am using a physical Storm Drain Cradily with a special Lightninrod Seaking in double battles, and I'm just destroying teams, I mean omg. They usually rage quit after a few rounds. The rest of my team isn't that great tho. Rapidash, Claydol, Aerodactyl and a shiny Magneton. But they have their uses... (I use my favorite pokemon anyway)

I'll try to share some videos

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Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:23 pm
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Decluttered post a bit and updated Amoonguss's set to survive M-Metagross's Zen headbutt. May try and ladder and post some videos soon.

Also the Gyarados is now Shiny :)

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2015-300668136
Aroma+Amoonguss lead doing well.


Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:11 am
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