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Author:  Blastiose_ex [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:05 pm ]
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shinashu taji wrote:
Besides most of the people that you see using a team of all Ubers are the little kids that don't know what they are doing anyway and thus can be easily defeated.

True dat, I once took down a team of Ho'oh, Mewtwo, and Lugia on PBR using only a Cresellia because the kid didn't know squat about Pokemon battling.
EDIT: I also took down a team of Arceus, Giratina, and Palkia using only a Porygon-Z and a Gyrados. Same situation
Ryder wrote:
Some people probably still will do that, spamming sleep powder's and double team's, but I know I'm not going to.

Good man.
Author:  shinashu taji [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:25 pm ]
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I am just going to learn how to stand by people on BW if I encounter Sleep spammers and Evasion newbs.
Author:  Azure [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:32 pm ]
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I really hope the online battling doesn't come to sleep spamming. God I hate Darkrai.
Author:  Blastiose_ex [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:04 am ]
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The worst possible outcome is once the sleepvasion spamming starts, so many competitive battlers start saying "if you can't beat 'em join 'em" that sleep clause and evasion clause are obsolete. But I doubt it.
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:04 pm ]
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Reading up on sleep it seems to work a bit differently now.

Sleep is capped at 4 turns max, with you waking up and attacking the last turn. So it can disable you for 3 turns max and a min. of 1 turn.
The "sleep counter" will reset if you switch out of battle. EX: use rest, sleep 2 turns, switch out-back in, sleep 2 turns again.
Sleep talk will work normally when choiced.

Not sure if that's worse or better, choice scarf+guts+sleep talk :) sleep-shuffling :(



Found some info on random match wifi battling:

Unrestricted is 6v6 free battle, unsure if there is a ban list.
Flat rules are 3v3singles 4v4doubles/rotation 6v6 triples, all pokes are lv50 "battle tower/sub" ban list. Also You see the opponents pokemon before the match and you choose who to bring (Just like PBR, this may be in unrestricted as well, but can't confirm)
Miracle shooter can be ON/OFF for any match.
Seems to be no sleep/evasion/ohko clause option.
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:11 am ]
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Moves all updated, credit to cerebii for the complete list.
Author:  /vXv\ [ Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:07 pm ]
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explosion SD not longer half DEF?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

My bombers team is ruined!
Author:  Blastiose_ex [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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/vXv\ wrote:
explosion SD not longer half DEF?

This could ruin suicide lead popularity to some extent. This is my reasoning:

Double power explosion from jolly azelf vs. max hp/154def hippowdon: 95.7%-112.9% (75% chance for ohko)
Gimp explosion in same situation: 48.1% - 56.7%
Double power explosion from jolly azelf vs. 240/216 swampert: 104%-123% (Guarenteed ohko)
Gimp explosion in same situation: 52.4% - 61.8%
Double power explosion from jolly azelf vs. max hp/4 def (taunt lead) gliscor: 122.9% - 144.6% (Guarenteed ohko)
Gimp explosion in same situation: 61.6% - 72.6%

Keep in mind this is a pokemon with 125 base atk.
Between this and DrizzleToad, Electrode is almost completely useless.
Author:  GofD [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:17 pm ]
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Wow, im likin this. {Quick question though, to see a pokemon in the dream world, does it need to be registered in your dex(not sure if this is where to ask)} Finally some good pokes get good abalities.

The changes on the moves, ill wait and see in game. As for the whole "exposion" thing, I cant battle other people, so it doesn't really bother me.
Author:  Blastiose_ex [ Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:51 pm ]
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I'm not sure but your question would probably be answered in the isshu region forum
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:19 am ]
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Blastiose_ex wrote:

Between this and DrizzleToad, Electrode is almost completely useless.


Add that new base 145 bug with spikes and me first to the list.
Author:  Blastiose_ex [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:48 pm ]
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MasterChef wrote:

Add that new base 145 bug with spikes and me first to the list.

Ah, hell yeah! Can't wait for that baby. Don't forget 100 Spatk: He's just screaming for a Specs set
Author:  shinashu taji [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:07 pm ]
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I am wanting Ulgamoth. Base 100 Speed. Base 135 Special Attack. Plus his attack that ALWAYS raises his Special Attack. It is going to appear on my competitive teams.
Author:  EvilPenguin [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:26 pm ]
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The rotom forms still have levitate. Awesome for the oven, not so much for the fan.
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:29 pm ]
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Blastiose_ex wrote:
MasterChef wrote:

Add that new base 145 bug with spikes and me first to the list.

Ah, hell yeah! Can't wait for that baby. Don't forget 100 Spatk: He's just screaming for a Specs set


It has horrid type coverage, focus blast is it's best bet against steels.

shinashu taji wrote:
I am wanting Ulgamoth. Base 100 Speed. Base 135 Special Attack. Plus his attack that ALWAYS raises his Special Attack. It is going to appear on my competitive teams.


Same as above, it's coverage is almost the same as Rapidash and is 4x SR weak. Love it's stats though.



Of course there's always hidden power.
Author:  EvilPenguin [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:37 pm ]
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Quote:
shinashu taji wrote:
I am wanting Ulgamoth. Base 100 Speed. Base 135 Special Attack. Plus his attack that ALWAYS raises his Special Attack. It is going to appear on my competitive teams.


Same as above, it's coverage is almost the same as Rapidash and is 4x SR weak. Love it's stats though.


Bug/Fire/Psychic hits everything except Heatran. Of course, there's HP Ground for that. But it's coverage is fine, especially with possibilities like Fire Blast and (DW) Swarm Bug Buzz (the SR weakness can actually help here)
Author:  shinashu taji [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:15 pm ]
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All Ulgamoth needs is Butterfly Dance, Fire Dance, Psychic, and HP Ground. Like EP said.
Author:  EvilPenguin [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:44 pm ]
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Or, if you have ninetales support, use Butterfly Dance/Fire Blast/Solarbeam/HP Ground.
Author:  Blastiose_ex [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:30 pm ]
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shinashu taji wrote:
All Ulgamoth needs is Butterfly Dance, Fire Dance, Psychic, and HP Ground. Like EP said.

I would go with Bug Buzz rather than psychic. Otherwise, you got completely owned by Tyranitar, since a +1 hp ground with Modest and life orb will only do 55.4% - 65.3%. Meanwhile, you're getting Stone Edged into oblivion, but Bug Buzz OHKO's every time :) Additionaly, Bug Buzz gives you great coverage.
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:33 pm ]
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EvilPenguin wrote:
Quote:
shinashu taji wrote:
I am wanting Ulgamoth. Base 100 Speed. Base 135 Special Attack. Plus his attack that ALWAYS raises his Special Attack. It is going to appear on my competitive teams.


Same as above, it's coverage is almost the same as Rapidash and is 4x SR weak. Love it's stats though.


Bug/Fire/Psychic hits everything except Heatran. Of course, there's HP Ground for that. But it's coverage is fine, especially with possibilities like Fire Blast and (DW) Swarm Bug Buzz (the SR weakness can actually help here)



Oops, I didn't see it had Psychic, I just saw Fire/Bug/Flying and fail phys. electric.
Author:  MUNCHLAX :) [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:40 pm ]
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do we know if there is a way to trade pokes from gen 4 games to gen 5 yet?
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:28 pm ]
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Cannot trade, but gen IV can be moved to gen V with the pokeshifter (after national dex)
Author:  MUNCHLAX :) [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:39 pm ]
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would you know how to use sed poke shifter??
does that also activte the zoarak and zorua events
Author:  MasonTheChef [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:15 pm ]
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It's just a mini-game like pal park, but a different game and there no day to day limit. Items and HM moves cannot be sent.
The shiny dog trio and celebii need to be transfered differently I believe to activate the events. Something with DS download play.
Author:  mellow [ Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:09 pm ]
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politoed has drizzle =D
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