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Bluestrike
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:32 pm Posts: 204 Location: Avatar by Me!!!
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What are the best movesets for salamence? How is this beast most effectively used? Help!
Bluestrike
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:20 pm |
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dethmehtulpwnage
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:39 am Posts: 8 Location: Route 218
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i USED to have a salamence like this until i replaced it with slaking:
Nature: Modest
Item: Life Orb
Moveset:
Earthquake
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Rest
well, either adamant OR modest works good but its always good to be able to add special attacks to his set, so i trained a modest salamence in attack(252) sp attack(126), HP(126) and 6 in speed. rest is a good move to have because of life orb(in my opinion) but can always be replaced by another attack, maybe a special attack to make more use of the modest nature.
hope i helped some.
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:39 pm |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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There are a lot of Salamence set, but I can't be bothered to list them all .
Well here's one...
@Choice Specs
Modest/Timid(Timid can be considered for the extra speed, and the ability to outspeed neutral nature garchomp)
252 SP ATK 252 SPEED 6 HP
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Hydro Pump/Hidden Power Ground
Flamethrower
SpecsMence, only walled by Blissey and other special walls. Though Blissey is the main one you'll be seeing.
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Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:13 pm |
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VictorZ
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:42 pm Posts: 17 Location: Teh Bay Area :D
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Depends on what kind of role you want it to be
{Salamence} @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
Adamant/Jolly. 252 Attack 252 speed 6 hp
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Dragonclaw
Stone edge
Standard set.
{Salamence} @ Choice Specs/Focus Sash/Leftovers
Modest. 252 Special Attk 252 Speed 6 Hp.
Draco Meteor/Dragonpulse
Hydro Pump
Flame thrower
HP Ice/Dragonpulse
Standard, if you don't like breeding for IV's go with Dragon pulse on the last slot and Draco meteor for the first
{Salamence} @ Life orb/Leftovers/Focus sash/Choice Scarf
Naive. 252 Speed 129 Special Attack 129 Attack -OR- 252 Attack 129 Special Attack 129 Speed
Draco Meteor
Earthquake
Dragonclaw/Flamethrower
Stone edge/Dragon dance
Mixed Sweeper. Scarf with second EV spread and no Dragondance. Dragondance with DClaw, EQ and Draco meteor.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:25 pm |
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Sapphirath
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore
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I have one set here that may require the aid of another Pokemon:
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 in Atk/Hp & Spd
Item: Salac Berry
Moves:
~Belly Drum
~Substitute/Earthquake
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Fang
Salamance only gets Belly Drum from breeding in the advanced generations so take note. The Reason why I said this might require aid of another Pokemon because a Reflector & Light Screener will ensure that Salamence can get the Drum up without fainting. Basically it cuts through anything if you Spiked/Stealth Rocked before save a opponent with a priority attack move.
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:39 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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I guess this a little old school but...
@Choice Band
Nature:Hasty
Ev:Att & Speed Max
Ab:Intimidate
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Fire Blast/Draco Meteor/Thunder Fang/Fire Fang
dethmehtulpwnage wrote:
Nature: Modest
Item: Life Orb
Moveset:
Earthquake
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Rest
I think it would be better if you put Roost instead of Rest...
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:12 am |
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The Obsidian Wolf
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:03 am Posts: 1559 Location: Dragon's Den
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Sapphirath wrote: I have one set here that may require the aid of another Pokemon:
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 in Atk/Hp & Spd
Item: Salac Berry
Moves:
~Belly Drum
~Substitute/Earthquake
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Fang
Salamance only gets Belly Drum from breeding in the advanced generations so take note. The Reason why I said this might require aid of another Pokemon because a Reflector & Light Screener will ensure that Salamence can get the Drum up without fainting. Basically it cuts through anything if you Spiked/Stealth Rocked before save a opponent with a priority attack move.
o.o I'm pretty sure it doesn't get Belly Drum. If it did, this thing would be entirely broken, what with having better attack than the best drummer in the game (Charizard) AND only have a 2x weakness to Rock. Tell me; how do you get Salamence w/Belly Drum? I'm nearly certain that you can't do it...
On the DDance set, consider using Fire Blast; increasing your Attack might tempt Skarm out, and then you can hammer it with a blast, before finishing it off with a boosted Dragon Claw. I wouldn't advise Focus Sash though. It seems a bit daft to think that you'd keep Salamence out against things that it would die in one hit. I know that's the POINT of Focus Sash, but it seems a waste when he could be doing other things with his time, such as Life Orb or Yache Berry (which then doesn't fear Srock ruining the fun)
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:09 am |
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Roar Of Time
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691
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http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/373/breeding
Obs, look there and click Show RSELGFR Egg Moves, you'll find it there...
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:06 pm |
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Sapphirath
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore
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Strange...very strange...I remember seeing Bagon with Belly Drum as an Egg move on the Psydex before I came out with this set....I saw it there...it was there....I'm absolutely completely totally sure...it was listed in the Advanced Generation egg moves and when I searched for a pokemon who learns Belly Drum using the psydex search, Bagon, Shelgon and Salamence appeared...what's going on? Was it another error in the Psydex like Snorlax being able to learn fissure in the advanced generations that they just fixed?
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:30 pm |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Salamence is my fave. use fire fang to kill his ice weakness. use outrage for dragon weakness. use birck break for rock weakness. choose any other choice of move. use anti confusion berry (forgot what its called). Use adamant nature with macho brace because it already has a good speed. Better if you ev train it.
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Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:26 pm |
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Bluestrike
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:32 pm Posts: 204 Location: Avatar by Me!!!
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DragonSpear wrote: Salamence is my fave. use fire fang to kill his ice weakness. use outrage for dragon weakness. use birck break for rock weakness. choose any other choice of move. use anti confusion berry (forgot what its called). Use adamant nature with macho brace because it already has a good speed. Better if you ev train it.
1. How many ice pokemon do you see in competetive play? Two. Weavile, and Regice. How many pokes do you see with ice beam/punch/fang? Too many is the answer.
2. Salamence doesnt get outrage.
3.Brick break takes out ice just as much as fire fang (not that you would use either).
4.Macho brace does EVs, not attack stat... It would just cut Mence's speed in half.
5. And pokemon are ALWAYS better if you EV train them.
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:25 pm |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Sorry, i was so much in perfecting my poke team i should have realized to think 2 steps ahead. sorry again if it caused any inconvinience
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Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:10 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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DragonSpear wrote: Salamence is my fave. use fire fang to kill his ice weakness. use outrage for dragon weakness. use birck break for rock weakness. choose any other choice of move. use anti confusion berry (forgot what its called). Use adamant nature with macho brace because it already has a good speed. Better if you ev train it.
The only Fang that is a worth using is Thunder...
And that's on Choice Band Set,and only for a little more coverage...
Brick Break is Ok...since it can OHKO ... If you really want to use Choice Band...
I would recommend a JOLLY nature...Because i will never forget a battle that i was winning(2-1)
I send my Banded and he was using a jolly Banded ...
He Flinched my metagross to death(With ROCK SLIDE!!! ) and i sended my Adamant and he beat him to death too...
that's when i learn that a little more speed is never too much...
But you can see this site too...
It's really helpful...
Click Here...
It think have posted in some places already but,whatever...
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Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:48 am |
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Uros
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:37 pm Posts: 23 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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modest@choice band
hyper beam
hydro pump
flamethrower
dragon pulse
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:56 pm |
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AKART
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:01 am Posts: 204 Location: Riding on Salamence, looking for Bidoof to kill
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YEAH SALAMENCE IS TEH BESST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More seriously, I have done this bit of necromancy to inform you of how you could use Salamence for defensive purposes.
Check out:
@ Sash/Yache/Lefties/Ganlon/Apicot
Impish
Intimidate
252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Att
~Captivate
~Roost
~Protect/Sub
~D-rush/claw
Defense is no problem with Intimidate, Impish and 252 EVs, as well as Roost protecting him from Rocks. Captivate helps Sp. Def, although you will have to watch out for the gender. Roost is an annoyance to those that get Mence on the smallest sliver of HP. Protect works with Lefties, sub works with the berries. The last move is so that you can actually do something when you've finished all this .
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:52 am |
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Jaredt222
Fails at life
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:33 pm Posts: 159 Location: South Dakota
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flying/ghost- flamethrower
other- earthquake
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:30 pm |
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Cuddles
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:23 pm Posts: 899
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Sapphirath wrote: Strange...very strange...I remember seeing Bagon with Belly Drum as an Egg move on the Psydex before I came out with this set....I saw it there...it was there....I'm absolutely completely totally sure...it was listed in the Advanced Generation egg moves and when I searched for a pokemon who learns Belly Drum using the psydex search, Bagon, Shelgon and Salamence appeared...what's going on? Was it another error in the Psydex like Snorlax being able to learn fissure in the advanced generations that they just fixed?
snorlax DOES get fissure as an egg move. and it gets it on XD too.
salamence is really awesome and now that it has heaps more great physical options (dragon claw, crunch, fangs, zen headbutt, etc) its hard to pick a moveset, but also very unpredictable. and with its good sp atk stat, you can put a special move even on an adamant/jolly salamence and still do a LOT of damage to most physical walls. it even has a good choice of special moves - fire blast for skarm/forretress, hydro pump for rhyperior etc, and draco meteor for a good strong mostly-neutral attack.
personally my favourite is the life orb set. jolly with dragon claw, earthquake, stone edge, fire blast.
im also planning on breeding for a dragon dancer. adamant, with dragon claw, earthquake, stone edge. and also a specs mence with draco meteor, hydro pump, fire blast, and maybe a good hidden power (but probably just dragon pulse/claw).
hope you have fun with your salamence
EDIT: after reading smogon's page (thanks bushin) it looks like hidden power on specs mence isnt such a brilliant idea..... yay
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:30 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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Cuddles wrote: Sapphirath wrote: Strange...very strange...I remember seeing Bagon with Belly Drum as an Egg move on the Psydex before I came out with this set....I saw it there...it was there....I'm absolutely completely totally sure...it was listed in the Advanced Generation egg moves and when I searched for a pokemon who learns Belly Drum using the psydex search, Bagon, Shelgon and Salamence appeared...what's going on? Was it another error in the Psydex like Snorlax being able to learn fissure in the advanced generations that they just fixed?
snorlax DOES get fissure as an egg move. and it gets it on XD too.
salamence is really awesome and now that it has heaps more great physical options (dragon claw, crunch, fangs, zen headbutt, etc) its hard to pick a moveset, but also very unpredictable. and with its good sp atk stat, you can put a special move even on an adamant/jolly salamence and still do a LOT of damage to most physical walls. it even has a good choice of special moves - fire blast for skarm/forretress, hydro pump for rhyperior etc, and draco meteor for a good strong mostly-neutral attack.
personally my favourite is the life orb set. jolly with dragon claw, earthquake, stone edge, fire blast.
im also planning on breeding for a dragon dancer. adamant, with dragon claw, earthquake, stone edge. and also a specs mence with draco meteor, hydro pump, fire blast, and maybe a good hidden power (but probably just dragon pulse/claw).
hope you have fun with your salamence
EDIT: after reading smogon's page (thanks bushin) it looks like hidden power on specs mence isnt such a brilliant idea..... yay
Yeah...imagine my face when i seen that after breeding half a month(on emerald) to get one with hidden power electric 57...that would be something like this...
Salamence was my favorite on R/S/E...
i have three of them...
A Bander ...Tanla
A Specsmence ...Kailena
and a MixMence ...Marishka
If you didn't figured out,they are all girls...
And they still hits hard...
Ops...
Almost forgot my Dragon Dancer,Shiryuu...this one is male...
About snorlax...
What pokémon that learns fissure can breed with she?
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Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:23 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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AKART wrote: YEAH SALAMENCE IS TEH BESST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More seriously, I have done this bit of necromancy to inform you of how you could use Salamence for defensive purposes.
Check out:
@ Sash/Yache/Lefties/Ganlon/Apicot
Impish
Intimidate
252 Def 252 Sp. Def 6 Att
~Captivate
~Roost
~Protect/Sub
~D-rush/claw
Defense is no problem with Intimidate, Impish and 252 EVs, as well as Roost protecting him from Rocks. Captivate helps Sp. Def, although you will have to watch out for the gender. Roost is an annoyance to those that get Mence on the smallest sliver of HP. Protect works with Lefties, sub works with the berries. The last move is so that you can actually do something when you've finished all this .
Don't want to put you down but,i didn't liked this salamence very much...
first if you would want to max something on Evs that would be HP...then you would split between the defenses giving special defense a little more than physical...since he got intimidate...
He still suffer from the curse of the dragons...(...ICE...) so...
even if you use captivate that would be a OHKO,or maybe 2HKO...against someone using Ice Beam...
Roost only help if you can attack first...i don't think that would be easy since you got no speed evs...
and since he got only for 4 evs on attack and a defensive nature he won't sweep nothing either...
if you really want tank take something else...
Plz don't waste a excellent offensive designed dragon like this on a defensive role...
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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Bushin wrote:
About snorlax...
What pokémon that learns fissure can breed with she?
It's a long road:
with fissure has to breeds with who breeds with and then breed with
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Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:35 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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Well...
I really wanted to breed a smeargle w/ it.....oh well...
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Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:48 am |
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Uros
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:37 pm Posts: 23 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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modest@choice band
hyrdo pump
flamethrower
dragon pulse
hyper beam
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Sat May 17, 2008 10:11 pm |
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Brianguyanddude
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 1:13 pm Posts: 8
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Heres the set I use
Salamence with Life Orb
Rash Nature(+Sp.Atk,-Sp.Def)
EVs:112Atk/144Spd/252Sp.Atk
.Roost
.Brick Break
.Fire Blast
.Dragon Claw/Draco Meteor
this set is designed to break walls,and Wall combos,and Roost makes up for the Life Orb Recoil.
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