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I have no idea if this is a UU pokemon or not. All I know is that I am the only one of my friends who have one.

Togekiss
Yacche Berry (My friends all have ice pokemon)
Modest
Serene Grance
255SPATK/255SPDEF
Ancient Power (My Togekiss is the only pokemon I have ever seen Ancient Power OHKO a pokemon)
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Aura Sphere

Once again I have no idea if this is UU or not but all my friends hate to battle it.


Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:04 pm
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Melphaligal wrote:
I have no idea if this is a UU pokemon or not. All I know is that I am the only one of my friends who have one.

Togekiss
Yacche Berry (My friends all have ice pokemon)
Modest
Serene Grance
255SPATK/255SPDEF
Ancient Power (My Togekiss is the only pokemon I have ever seen Ancient Power OHKO a pokemon)
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Aura Sphere

Once again I have no idea if this is UU or not but all my friends hate to battle it.


Hahaha just found out that it was. I have been unable to get on the internet with my DS for a while. Finally got back on and what do I find a bunch of Togekiss! Those weren't there last time I looked! Oh well I looked up a list and I found out that one of my other favorites is not OU.

Here is an Ambipom for you!

Ambipom
Adamant
Technician
Wide Lense
Fake Out
U-Turn
Fury Swipes
Double Hit

The other two are basically there for fillers. Just Fake Out U-Turn your way to victory!

Once again my apologies about the last one.


Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:28 pm
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Does anybody know if Froslass is OU?
from what i heard about her she can be really competetive but has low base stats except for speed
If Froslass is OU, correct me

annoyer spike Froslass

@focus sash/ facus band(why dont people use this more?)/ leftovers
Timid
252 speed...dont know the others
spikes
destiny bond
hail
confuseray/ icebeam/ thunderbolt


Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:28 pm
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Well, there is a tier thread here for that kind of questions.

Hail is usually a waste on frosslas, not only because it wont survive but also because there already is a hail bringer.


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facus band(why dont people use this more?)
I have no idea, but maybe the fact that 10% chance of working is extremelly unreliable has something to do with it.

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Ambipom
Adamant
Technician
Wide Lense
Fake Out
U-Turn
Fury Swipes
Double Hit


Not trying to be a back seat rater here but life orb is usually on that (excelent) set. See, Technician boosted fake out and technician boosted U-turn do a very good amount of damage with life orb... without even taking a hit! :) Also, Shadow claw is usualy there instead of Fury swipes.

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Cherrim's Petal Dance and Leech Seed are completely useless ,I never use them.
So why do you have them on the moveset?

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So I start off with Sunny Day and Toxic. Cherrim's Helping Hand gives Rapidash a power boost, and covered with STAB, Base 95 and Sunny Day we've got a pretty powerful Flamethrower.


Good, altough sunny day + flash fire activation is more common in double battles, and there are better pokemon to abuse it.

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Given the common use of Kyogre from n00bs (a type of Pokemon player that is far more common than people who use a thing called `effort`) Passho Berry is quite vital.


lol. Even with passho berry, you are never going to survive a surf from Kyogre.

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The fantastic moveset is resisted only by Heatran
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And any fire or dragon pokemon who is not horribly weak to stomp and does't mind toxic a lot.

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{ditto} @ lefties
Timid | 252 HP/Spd, 6 Def
Transform

...Wow! That was easy :P

{vespiquen} @ lefties
Impish | 252 HP/Def, 6 Spd
Attack Order
Defend Order
Roost
Toxic


Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:16 pm
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Oh that is a good idea Bumi. I don't use anything but Fake Out and U-turn on my Ambi so it would kinda be a waste to use a Shadow Claw TM. The Life Orb idea though, now that is something I can get behind. My PorygonZ usually holds my Life Orb but I dont always use my PorygonZ I DO use my Ambipom though.

As for something else I was thinking of raising, I am not sure though.

Raticate@Toxic/flame orb
Guts
Adament l 252 speed/252 Attack/ 4 Defense
Flame Wheel
Sucker Punch
Super/Hyper Fang
Endeavor

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I used to use a Choice Scarf Zangoose on Shoddy. The great thing about using less seen pokes is people aren't entirely sure what moves they're going to carry making it much easier to surprise them.

Zangoose@Choice Scarf
Immunity
Adamant 252Atk, 252Spd 6HP
Slash
Close Combat
Night Slash
Aerial Ace

I also used to surprise people with Expert Belt on a mixed Infernape - I lolled at that Blissey...

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Lumineon@(not sure yet, ive been tinkering with life orb, wise glasses, ect.)
Swift Swim l Modest
252SA/252SP/6HP
Rain Dance
Surf
Ice Bean
Aqua Ring/U-turn

pretty much self-explanatory..... I think its got a nice surprise element to it, even if Lumineons stats suck.


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undertaker wrote:
{ditto} @ lefties
Timid | 252 HP/Spd, 6 Def
Transform

...Wow! That was easy :P

{vespiquen} @ lefties
Impish | 252 HP/Def, 6 Spd
Attack Order
Defend Order
Roost
Toxic
why do you have Roost over Heal Order? seems like a waste of a good Roost TM to me, even if Roost presents a few advantages in some cases.

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why do you have Roost over Heal Order? seems like a waste of a good Roost TM to me, even if Roost presents a few advantages in some cases.


This is just hypothetical...it really doesn't matter.

Dunsparce @ Leftovers | Modest
Serene Grace
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Ancientpower


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I don't know if this is underused or not but:

Espeon @ Focus Sash
Psychic
Double Team
Grass Knot
Protect

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I have a UU Clefable that absolutely smoked my friend's team with a little luck:

Adamant, 252 speed 252 attack (though attack might have been split with HP)

Cosmic Power
Moonlight
Belly Drum
Meteor Mash/Return

cosmic power till yer defenses are thru the roof, moonlight when your HP gets down, belly drum, moonlight again for hp, sweep. . . .i know it sounds stupid and that itll never work, but you can really catch people off guard with this one. Trust me, i've actually killed things with this moveset. you get the best laughs you've had in a while.


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elite42 wrote:
I don't know if theres a better one for D/P, but I can stay VERY LONG with this set:

{vaporeon} modest @ lefties
Default EVs, except Def EVs put in Sp. Def
Surf
Ice Beam
Acid Armour
Wish

LOL Acid Armour, take some damage, Wish, start sweeping, and all the way lefties backs you up.


??? - Vaporeon is OU!

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Raticate@Toxic/flame orb
Guts
Adament l 252 speed/252 Attack/ 4 Defense
Flame Wheel
Sucker Punch
Super/Hyper Fang
Endeavor


Definantly Facade over any fang, and definantly flame over toxic orb. Also, I think you need quick attack to run FEAR. Maybe over sucker punch, but then again maybe over flame wheel. You need something to surprise those little ghosties.

EDIT: Wait, does dark hit ghost SE? Can never get that straight...

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Clouded Reason wrote:
I have a UU Clefable that absolutely smoked my friend's team with a little luck:

Adamant, 252 speed 252 attack (though attack might have been split with HP)

Cosmic Power
Moonlight
Belly Drum
Meteor Mash/Return

cosmic power till yer defenses are thru the roof, moonlight when your HP gets down, belly drum, moonlight again for hp, sweep. . . .i know it sounds stupid and that itll never work, but you can really catch people off guard with this one. Trust me, i've actually killed things with this moveset. you get the best laughs you've had in a while.
I think Alkazor said that this was awesome, I think he added toxic orb and facade or something like that.

But I got a scizor with sword dance in and I tanked the damage really well and wrecked it's hp pretty quick.

But he said it really baffles people on netbattle.

And yes KOL40, Dark hits ghost super effective.


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If Ambipom is considered underused...

Ambipom @ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
EVs: Speed and Attack

Moveset:
Fake Out
Last Resort

Just delete all your other moves. Fake out will do a great deal of damage with the technician plus the life orb.
Last Resort Can Take out a lot of Pokemon lacking defense in one hit. There exists only two problems - you can't hurt
ghosts and you run out of PP fairly fast. Just find some PP maxes. I only double battle, so bringing in a ghost/dark
with it solves the ghost problem. If you run across a steel type, fake it out then call the ampibom back for a fake out later, no
real crisis.

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Erm, Ambipom is not underused. With Double Hit and Fake Out both receiving a boost from STAB and Technician, while Ambipom retains the ability to be unpredictable (as a Nasty Plot - Swift or Baton Pass user) I think it deserves a spot in OU or BL. Combine that with Choice Banded U-Turn, and you've got a Pokemon that is so unpredictable you have to sacrifice a large chunk of HP before you know exactly what it does.

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{cradily} @lefties
Careful (+Sdef, -Satk)
252 HP, 252 Sdef, 4 Def
-Recover/leechseed
-Toxic
-Rock Slide
-Stealth Rocks

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Blupoh wrote:
{cradily} @lefties
Careful (+Sdef, -Satk)
252 HP, 252 Sdef, 4 Def
-Recover/leechseed
-Toxic
-Rock Slide
-Stealth Rocks



Might I suggest using Stockpile over Stealth Rock; there are some other starters that you could lead with that could also bring in Sandstorm; that, combined with +defence and +spdef and recover = supreme tankish qualities.

And I thought Cradily was BL, no UU.

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I gots a few ^^

Rapidash
Adamant/Flash Fire/Shell bell
252Atk 100speed 152DEF
-Return (Decent power atk)
-Horn drill (A gamble, but useful any non-ghost that it can't seem to defeat)
-Megahorn (120power, good atk at killing most Grass, Psychics)
-Flare Blitz (Shell bell helps w/ recoil damage)


Farfetch'd
Adamant/Keen Eye/Focus sash
255 Atk 255 Speed
-Return (great STAB)
-Dark Slash (hits ghosts and rocks.)
-Pluck (Flying STAB eating berries can be helpful)
-Swords dance (Needs for good damage)


Muk
Brave/Sticky Hold/Wide lens
255 Atk 255 Def
-Brick break (kills steel/rock types)
-Gunk Shot (grand damage w/ a curse. Lens helps acc.)
-Shadow sneak (Cursed it is good against psychics. allows Muk a follow up hit if Gunk shot doesn't KO)
-Curse (Great buff for the slow)

Kabutops
Netural/Battle armor/Quick claw
255 Atk, rest is split up
-X-scissor (KO's grass types that switch in)
-Surf (Good water STAB, gives a Alt. if attack is down)
-Stone Edge (Rock STAB, Powerful
-Return/Rock Slide (Currently deciding between thses moves >.<)

It's still in the works but I'm also making and Special Flygon. the challenge is getting two trapinches to lv89....

Flygon
Modest/levitate/Wise glasses
252 S.atk 252 speed
-Earth power
-Dragon pulse
-Fire blast
-Fissure


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muk@black sludge/chesto berry
adamant
curse
poison jab
shadow sneak
rest

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I don't know if it is UU but i have a handy torterra set

Torterra @shell bell
Wood Hammer
EQ
Stealth Rock
Leech seed

Stealth Rock to start with then leech seed. If they switch then they get stealth rock damage and switch into an STAB'd attack. Leech to start the combo all over again. the Shell Bell is to cut the recoil damage in half and with leech seed the damage is almost non-existant

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i dont know if anyone uses this one in battle but it did extremely well till i came up against a dusknoir with three of the same attacks but here it is:

shuckle
naive@metronome

ablility sturdy

rollout
rest
toxic
double team

at level 52 her def and sp. def are 248 and 231 respectively
i game her as many vitamins at low lvls to make up for some of the extremely low values of shuckel
but it puts a great fight against most opponents... as long as they arnt a sleel type...


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here's a typical Underused one:

Jumpluff@ focus stash(send it in first of the battle)
Jolly
252 HP 252 Speed 6 attack
Sleep Powder
stun Spore
U-turn
Reflect/ Light screen/ aromatherapy/ encore/ worry seed/ sunny day (any move that you feel really to support you)

The typical double powder set....stun spore so you dont break sleep clause, U-turn to get outta there and not be taunted, and a support move that you can pull off at the beginning of the battle or late battling...this set works really well even in OU game..


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jamashawalker wrote:
here's a typical Underused one:

Jumpluff@ focus stash(send it in first of the battle)
Jolly
252 HP 252 Speed 6 attack
Sleep Powder
stun Spore
U-turn
Reflect/ Light screen/ aromatherapy/ encore/ worry seed/ sunny day (any move that you feel really to support you)

The typical double powder set....stun spore so you dont break sleep clause, U-turn to get outta there and not be taunted, and a support move that you can pull off at the beginning of the battle or late battling...this set works really well even in OU game..


I've seen a fair number of Jumpluff leads, they're pretty impressive. However, the best one I battled was when I lead with my Tyranitar; I assumed I'd be able to OHKO it, and even factored in Focus Sash; the SStorm would take care of that 1HP. However, on its first turn, it used Sunny Day and cleared the skies of my Sandstorm, while I stone Edged it down to 1HP. Next turn, it put me to sleep, and I had to switch out, receiving Stun Spore, and then back to TTar again to set up Sstorm again, receiving a Leech Seed while I was at it. In those opening moves, my opponent had crippled a third of my team. Pretty good for a Jumpluff. =/

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I <3 to use Altaria as a Lead

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