you switch pokemon...duh
. If you go with the choice scarf...not too many should be faster than you. And how many competitive pokes use disable anyway?
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:01 pm ] |
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Blaziken@Choice (the one that ups atk/SPD) Adamant/Jolly 252ATK/252SPD/6HP Last resort Where are the other moves? THERE AREN'T ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last resort - 150 base power, can only be used if you have no other moves left. So, I think that The idea would be to pass as many Swords Dance as possible and then let the good times roll. This may not be the best poke to do this on. All normal types besides Snorelax kinda sucked...like eevee. And snorelax has so many better use. So, I tried to find the one with the highest ATK and SPD but when i hit blaze i gave up. |
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| Author: | MissingNo_Is_My_Friend [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:23 pm ] |
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Crazy. Probably won't work very well. Normal attacks have no strengths, not to mention that physical walls and ghost types laugh at this moveset. Will the move deleter let you get rid of all but one move? |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:28 pm ] |
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Yeah, of course i realized that it is walled by ghosts... but physical walls: Hypothetical: Maxed attack on a blaziken is 372. 3 SD's 372*4+150=1638 base power. or is it 6: 372*6+150=2382 or does it go like this: 372+150*4=972 372+150*6=1272 How many pokes can not die to that? Skarm? Any more? Steelix? Any more? I can't think of any. |
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| Author: | MissingNo_Is_My_Friend [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:55 pm ] |
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KOL40 wrote: Yeah, of course i realized that it is walled by ghosts... but physical walls:
Hypothetical: Maxed attack on a blaziken is 372. 3 SD's 372*4+150=1638 base power. or is it 6: 372*6+150=2382 or does it go like this: 372+150*4=972 372+150*6=1272 How many pokes can not die to that? Skarm? Any more? Steelix? Any more? I can't think of any. I don't know the damage calc formumla, but I do know that you have to account for the opponent's defense. |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:02 pm ] |
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Yeah, the way i understand it is that the final calculation is subtracted from the opponents' defense (actually vice versa) and that is the damage. |
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| Author: | Ice_Ball22 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:08 pm ] |
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yea, and when someone is faster and they use disable? |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:23 pm ] |
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you switch pokemon...duh . If you go with the choice scarf...not too many should be faster than you. And how many competitive pokes use disable anyway?
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| Author: | Ice_Ball22 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:51 pm ] |
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idk i fail at competitive battling. i play for fun so i was just thinking that one move doesn't sound too good. but now that you explain it i guess its not all that bad. its just not fun for in game play
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:54 pm ] |
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Ice_Ball22 wrote: idk i fail at competitive battling. i play for fun so i was just thinking that one move doesn't sound too good. but now that you explain it i guess its not all that bad. its just not fun for in game play Actually, I believe you about fail on comp. Because you called this good. When it is just crazy! |
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| Author: | Ice_Ball22 [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:36 pm ] |
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KOL40 wrote: Ice_Ball22 wrote: idk i fail at competitive battling. i play for fun so i was just thinking that one move doesn't sound too good. but now that you explain it i guess its not all that bad. its just not fun for in game play Actually, I believe you about fail on comp. Because you called this good. When it is just crazy! 
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| Author: | jamashawalker [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:35 am ] |
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ummm blaziken cant learn trump card....not unless your talkin about last resort...then yeah this sounds like i really great idea....and last resort only does 130 (if you are talking about it lol) |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:41 am ] |
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Sorry, I did mean last resort. |
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| Author: | jamashawalker [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:40 pm ] |
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o ok....then sadly that strategy doesnt work  ....i tried it before with my aimbipom...just teaching it last resort...but it doesnt work...you at least need a one move to go along with last resort....so maybe you can think of another move to go along with it...but that strategy is a bust... smart thinking though
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:46 pm ] |
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What do you mean you need 1 move? It doesn't work if you don't have at least 2 moves? |
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| Author: | jamashawalker [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:51 pm ] |
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that's what i said...you at least need another move to go along with last resort.... Ie.. Fake out Last Resort... Fake out flinches...you can use last resort now...Cant use last resort not unless you have another move with it... |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:08 pm ] |
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So what happens if you try to use that as your only move? Blaziken used last resort. Last resort failed! Is that what happens? |
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| Author: | jamashawalker [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:27 pm ] |
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yeah...that's exactly what happens |
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| Author: | sid18 [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:31 am ] |
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Ambipom with Fake Out and Last Resort is really fun to use. |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:35 am ] |
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sid18 wrote: Ambipom with Fake Out and Last Resort is really fun to use. How does that work? Doesn't fake out have like 20 PP. |
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| Author: | jamashawalker [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:04 pm ] |
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the aimbipom fake out strategy is well known...you use fake out...the oppenent flinches...then you are allowed to do last resort...with fake out doing damage....the other best thing about this strategy is that Aimbipom's ability TECHNICIAN...boosts fake out 40 power to 60...plus STAB 90, plus with it holding a life orb 135...soo basically you get to start off with a 135 power damage first just from doing fake out...so that's a free hit...then you can use last resort...which does 130 damage, plus STAB makes it 195...plus life orb makes it like...292.5 damage....so you got two moves...one fake out 135 power free hit and last resort with 292.5 damage...it's a really great strategy |
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| Author: | KOL40 [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:14 pm ] |
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Yeah, Untill they switch a gengar or dusknoir 
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| Author: | jamashawalker [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:20 pm ] |
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heh that's the truth about them lol that's it weakness...or get someone with inner focus or steadfast...then it's really screwed lol...but it's a good strategy all in all, but like all strategies they all have their weakness's |
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