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 can i use 3 "spikes" moves at once? 
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(if 1 pkmn can even learn all of them) like, toxic spikes, spikes, and the rock one all at once? that would be awesome

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Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:08 pm
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omastar can learn all three. the two spikes moves through breeding and stealth rock through TM. forretress the same way i think

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so if i use all three, in 1 battle, will i get 2 damages upon switch, and a poison? that would be sweet! but need high def to pull it off.

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Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:48 pm
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yeah you take away at least 32.5% Hp and get toxic poison (although its not always due to types, abilities etc.). Bear in mind it will take you 6 turns minimum to do this, so you will a very good defensive pokemon. IMO i'd ditch toxic spikes as you can poison them with toxic anyway and reduces the minimum turns to 4

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k, but i think omastar is my only option.which means i have to breed. which means i dont know how. what is it: female is species, male is noves? what about gettin' a good nature?

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To be totally honest I wouldn't bother as it takes ages unless u got a magic luck potion or you are harry potter or something. But so i don't spoil the fun it goes: male cloyster with spikes+toxic spikes => Female Omanyte/Omastar. Then TM 76 stealth rock and you have your anti-switching machine. The last move is up to you but i would go with surf, safe choice

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go for sr/spikes or toxic spikes, it wont make it thru all 3

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You can lay up to six layers of spikes/rocks.

-You can have no more then 3 layers of normal Spikes.
-You can have no more then 2 layers of Toxic Spikes.
-You can only have one layer of Stealth Rock.

Smeargle also learns all three moves, but you already knew that :P


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The Claw of Zangoose wrote:
You can lay up to six layers of spikes/rocks.

-You can have no more then 3 layers of normal Spikes.
-You can have no more then 2 layers of Toxic Spikes.
-You can only have one layer of Stealth Rock.

Smeargle also learns all three moves, but you already knew that :P


Yes, but we want a Poke'mon that can defend long enough to set 'em up. If Smeargle gets breathed on, he dies...

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forrettress can learn all 3

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hmm i thought sum1 already mentioned forretress already but i guess im mistaken
sure u can use all 3moves at once but its impractical to do so


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The Fluffy Weavile wrote:
The Claw of Zangoose wrote:
You can lay up to six layers of spikes/rocks.

-You can have no more then 3 layers of normal Spikes.
-You can have no more then 2 layers of Toxic Spikes.
-You can only have one layer of Stealth Rock.

Smeargle also learns all three moves, but you already knew that :P


Yes, but we want a Poke'mon that can defend long enough to set 'em up. If Smeargle gets breathed on, he dies...



you could have a Smeargle W/ 3 spikes and spore. then set it up while he sleeps.

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no it'll have to have endure or sth of that nature to live a turn and activate salac and hopefully outspeed ur opponent to spore them _breathes_
besides having all 3 on one poke is impractical... mayb spikes/stealth rock bc u wouldnt sum pokes (heracross) a free guts boost


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4ever_bug_catcher wrote:
no it'll have to have endure or sth of that nature to live a turn and activate salac and hopefully outspeed ur opponent to spore them _breathes_
besides having all 3 on one poke is impractical... mayb spikes/stealth rock bc u wouldnt sum pokes (heracross) a free guts boost


it don't mean you have to OPEN with Smeargle, just pass him speed and a subby.

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You could be in the middle of setting up the Spikes with Forretress when you get blasted with Flamethrower. You will burn in cinders.

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I think the smeargle one is good. Give it a Focus sash, and pow, you can set up thos spikes. Cool idea.

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