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Well here's the deal...
I got a good {zapdos} and gonna pass him to D/P...
He got more than 20 IV in most stats,30 IVs in HP, 27 on Attack...
(Probably...he is on level 50 so it isn't 100% sure...),Hasty nature...

So here's the deal...
I'm not sure what i should do with him...>_<
I was thinking on something like this...

{zapdos} @Life Orb
Hasty
Evs:Att 58 Sp.Att:200 Speed:252
Pressure
-Thunderbolt
-Ancient Power
-U-Turn
-Roost

It sucks...I know...>_<
Anybody help?
Keep in mind that his Hidden power sucks...and he is on Leaf green...

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Sun May 18, 2008 8:21 am
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I guess you can't teach Extrasensory because you don't have XD huh? I think it's great..though it's a Pity that it's not Timid.. :)


Sun May 18, 2008 9:30 am
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Hasty increases speed, decreases one of the defenses I think. I'd just Pal Park it and then teach it these moves, Thunder, Subby, Rain Dance, U-Turn, not standard but Zapdos doesn't learn too much moves. Sub, first, then set up Rain, Zapdos can be bulky enough to do this, then Thunder away, use a Life Orb or Leftovers, U-Turn to get out of there and pass the Sub to someone else, eg Dra, and the Rain probably be still running and then sweep.

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Hasty is a -Def/+Speed Nature.
U-Turn is a Attacking baton pass?
I didn't knew that...
I think i would lose the sub if i use U-turn...

Thanks for the ideas guys! :wink:

And about Zap don't being Timid...
I didn't understand well the reason that it's a pity...
Hasty is a +Speed nature too...
The difference is that it put down his defense...>_>

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Sun May 18, 2008 7:05 pm
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U-Turn is a attacking Baton Pass???? What? You sure? That's really surprising... :shock:


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Sapphirath wrote:
U-Turn is a attacking Baton Pass???? What? You sure? That's really surprising... :shock:


Actually i don't know... :?

I asked that because of this post...

Roar Of Time wrote:

Sub, first, then set up Rain, Zapdos can be bulky enough to do this, then Thunder away, use a Life Orb or Leftovers, U-Turn to get out of there and pass the Sub to someone else, eg Dra, and the Rain probably be still running and then sweep.


-------------EDIT-------------------

Unfortunately it isn't work... :(
I tested...
Substitute wasn't passed by U-Turn...
I don't know about stat boosts ...
I think it's just a good attack...

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U-Turn isn't the same as Baton Pass. U-Turn doesn't pass anything on. Otherwise, every Baton Passer would use U-Turn over Baton Pass (unless they can't learn it). Who would say no to free damage? Some Baton Passers: Ninjask (substitute/focus sash+swarm+U-Turn=Decent Damage), Vaporeon, Umbreon, etc. If U-Turn did what Baton Pass did, then the Bpers listed would definitely use U-Turn.

Just wanted to make sure everyone got that. :wink:

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Sat May 31, 2008 11:12 am
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ninjask doesnt have swarm.

u-turn is definitely just a move with the additional effect of going back to the user.

since your zappy has good attack and a neutral-attack nature, you could consider drill peck also - STAB'd drill peck is always good!

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Volke wrote:
U-Turn isn't the same as Baton Pass. U-Turn doesn't pass anything on. Otherwise, every Baton Passer would use U-Turn over Baton Pass (unless they can't learn it). Who would say no to free damage? Some Baton Passers: Ninjask (substitute/focus sash+swarm+U-Turn=Decent Damage), Vaproeon, Umbreon, etc. If U-Turn did what Baton Pass did, then the Bpers listed would definitely use U-Turn.

Just wanted to make sure everyone got that. :wink:


Yeah i kind of knew that already...
Since Substitute wasn't passed...
Thanks. :wink:

Cuddles wrote:
ninjask doesnt have swarm.

u-turn is definitely just a move with the additional effect of going back to the user.

since your zappy has good attack and a neutral-attack nature, you could consider drill peck also - STAB'd drill peck is always good!


Hmm...
I'll take that in consideration...
80 Base power + Stab = :D ...
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Cuddles wrote:
ninjask doesnt have swarm.

u-turn is definitely just a move with the additional effect of going back to the user.

since your zappy has good attack and a neutral-attack nature, you could consider drill peck also - STAB'd drill peck is always good!


*Facepalms* Doh! What was I thinking!? Ninjask has Speed Boost - one of the biggest reasons why it's used. Hehe, my bad.

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I would go with...

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Hasty / Pressure
252 HP | 129 Atk | 129 Sp. Atk
-Sub.
-Roost
-Drill Peck
-Thunderbolt

Simple really, Sub, then attack, and Roost.
You could put Thunder over 'bolt with a Rain Dancer (Damp Rock & U-Turn), but that could be a wasted 17% of your team.

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