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sean wrote:

JUST A COUPLE OFF QUESTIONS

FOR THE SCEPTILE WITH CRUNCH WHO DO I BREED IT WITH

TWO IS THIS GOOD TO ADD AND TAKE SOMETHING OFF FOR IT OR NO

LUGIA
HYDROPUMP /SURF
AEROBLAST
PSYCHIC / THUNDERBOLT
EQ

Saanaito wrote:

Training Bagon will also take less EXP points, iirc.

xchaos wrote:

um how exactly do you chose what type of TM 10 you get?
You see, it is based on Deter Values, or how far from the maximum values you are. IT is the correct combination of DVs that gives you the type that you want.<<<Click> Rock Tomb. Regardless, flamethrower > blaze kick, and either bulk up or swords dance (tutor) > fire blast.

{rayquaza}

- aireal ace
- dragon claw
- extreeme speed
- drgon dance
Earthquake, brick break, iron tail, or rock slide > Dragon Claw. Keep it one type, mixed sweeping isn't that easy (flamethrower hits alot, thats why I said that for your blaziken)

{absol}

- fireblast
- sword dance
- bite
- slash
Swords Dance is good. But throw on 3 of baton pass, aerial ace, rock slide, Shadow Ball, and body slam/return

and that the pokemon I want to rate
Where are the others in your team? Is this for the emerald battle fronteir?

SAIRAM wrote:

About that Metagross I tried to get another Adamant one but could'nt do it I got one Careful and one Jolyy these are it's DV's
Careful Beldum's DV's:
HP:24,25
Atk:30,31

Def:20,21
Spd:2,3

Sp.Atk:20,21,22
Sp.Def:20,21

Jolly Beldum's DV's:
HP:0,1
Atk:10,11
Def:20,21
Spd:4,5
Sp.Atk:16,17
Sp.Def:19

The Careful one wins quite easily but I just wanted to check the Nature with you. The moveset is

{metagross}

228Atk 94Spd 76HP 52Def and Sp.Def
Agility
EQ
Meteor Mash
Explosion

I agree Metagross's speed's nothing to write home about, but don't worry about it so much unless you're up against a big meany (ie, some flame spitter like Rayquaza). Shadow Ball or Sludge Bomb over Agility. Earthquake and Meteor Mash are fine, but drop Explosion. Metagross is an excellent physical tank and a reasonable (if done right) overall tank. Therefore, you'll want Aerial Ace or something along those lines there (eg. Sludge Bomb) because the first 3 aren't going to cut it on their own. My personal opinion is Brick Break and Shadow Ball, then you build from there, but some say Meteor Mash (for STAB) over Brick Break. Your choice there.

More importantly, put your EVs together. I agree with the Speed, SD, and the Att, but you don't really need HP here. Metagross's HP is reasonable enough, and its defense is excellent. Instead, focus on 3 (primary and 2 secondaries) so you get more out of them. I'd suggest a bucketload of Att, and a bunch of SD, and dump the remainder in speed (eg. 252-Att 150-SD 108-Speed)

Thanks in advance.

Sycodik Genius wrote:

I'm trying a new team for link battles
{salamence}

hydropump
d-claw
doubleedge
fly

All of these moves need to be replaced. Breed for D-Dance, and then put on Earth Quake, Aerial Ace, Rock Slide. Or even Steel Wing or Brick Break instead.

{raikou}

thunder
dig
crunch
reflect

Thunder Bolt for Thunder. You could go for a Special Hidden Power like Ice or Grass for Dig. If not use Thunder Wave.

{meganium}

razorleaf
gigadrain
bodyslam
lightscreen

Meganium is frail when it comes to making moves. You could go for a Sunny-Beaming set (Solar Beam, Sunny Day, Synthesis, and HP Fire or Giga Drain).

{gardevoir}

t-bolt
hypnosis
dreameater
hiddenpower(Ice)

Replace Hypnosis for Psychic, put on Fire Punch for Dream Eater. And use Calm Mind for HP Ice.

{latias}

recover
psykic
fly
d-claw

Get rid of Fly and Recover for Thunder Bolt, and Ice Beam. You could also use Calm Mind for Dragon Claw if you like but it can stay.

{steelix}

doubleedge
irontail
dig
hyperbeam

sean wrote:

how is this lugia?

lv 100 serius nature
attacks

First thing to do is realize that Lugia's best points are its defensive stats. Therefore, any attack you put on will not be of terribly great effect unlike (say) Rayquaza. Play to your strengths, not your weaknesses: consider a Hitmonchan (great attack but terrible SA) using elemental punches.

Next, survey your movepool: Your offensive stats are low, so your next option is your movepool. Your choice is physical or special, and the pool is reasonably large enough that you're not uncomfortably restricted, unlike Gyarados for example.

Last, its role in battle: Clearly a sponge, though it needs offensive ability. Therefore consider EV training carefully. Being a sponge, 1 move is immediately necessary: Recover. Otherwise, consider your choices carefully.

surf
earthquake
psychic
aeroblast

Aeroblast is fine, as is Psychic. Recover over Surf, and Earthquake is fine. In this case, the bulk of your offensive effort is physical in nature. Stick with high powered moves. Surf is simple damage, Earthquake can compoud things (Dig, partners) and Aeroblast has a high crit rate. Psychic (plain and simple) is STAB.

or

areal ace
recover
thunderbolt
eq

If you're using a flying move, go with Aeroblast. As I said your primary role is a sponge so don't worry about hitting so much. Thunderbolt's fine, but since you've already a physical option, use Psychic over Earthquake. Otherwise, consider Shadow Ball instead.

what do u prefer or i could clone it on emerald and have both but i cant decide they are both good

Your poke, so up to you. More improtantly, remember you have other options open to you: Ice Beam, Giga Drain, Steel Wing, Light Sreen, Shock Wave, and Reflect. Ice Beam can freeze like Thunderbolt can Paralyze (unlike Surf), Giga Drain is good for spongers (healtH), and LS/R halve damage. Shock Wave is like a loose plug in that it's basically Aerial Ace in special mode.

hfxjus wrote:

Is this Linoonne in emerald good?

{linoone}

@choice band
Adamant nature/Male

~ covet
~ return
~ subsitute
~ shadow ball

Stratele wrote:

my team woo! Their not EV trained cause ive only just found out about it and they all know the HM's cause this is the team I use all the time, more convient.

More convenient to have a couple of HM slaves instead.

{latias}

Dragon Claw
Flash
Waterfall
Psychic

Taking into account what's up there, drop Waterfall and Flash for Recover/Thunderbolt and Ice Beam.

{manectric}

Thunder bolt
Strength
Thunder
Double Team

Crunch over Thunder, Agility or HP Special over Strength.

{sceptile}

Leaf Blade
Giga Drain
Cut
Solerbeam

Breed for Crunch over Giga Drain, Thunderpunch over Cut, Dragon Claw or Dragon Breath (breed) over Solarbeam.

{blaziken}

Flamethrower
Skyuppercut
Fireblast
Blaze Kick

Consider Brick Break over Sky Uppercut, Focus Energy over Flamethrower, and Slash over Fire Blast.

{swampert}

Dive
Earthquake
Surf
Protect

Surf and Earthquake are fine, Brick Break or Rock Slide over Dive, HP Ghost or Endeavour over Protect.

{salamence}

Dragon Breath
Rock Smash (temted to replace)
Fly
Flamethrower

Salamence is physical in nature (go look up the psydex). Steel Wing, Earthquake, Aerial Ace, or Rock Slide over Fly, Rock Smash, and Flamethrower. Dragon Breath is alright (STAB) but I advise changing it for another physical.

Their all at level 74 as well!

sean wrote:

these are just a whole heap of my stuff that i need checking up on

sceptile
dragon claw
eq
crunch
leaf blade / leech seed / giga drain

thinking or adding a thunderpunch in there somewhere
i really like him he is always with me he is my starter
Special sweeper =/= EQ. t-punch or leech seed instead. Definately not giga drain, though.

blazekein
flamethrower
skyuppercut
thunderpunch
areal ace
Instead of aerial ace and t-punch, put on swords dance/bullk up and EQ/Rock Slide.

NOTE I WANT EQ SOMEWHERE HERE IF NEEDED

swampmert
icebeam
surf
eq
rock tomb
Curse/Rest/Roar/Rock Slide/Brick Break > Rock Tomb.

mightyeena (dont ask why its lv 100 just give me good moves)
crunch
shadowball
swagger
??? currently takedown
Poison fang > crunch. iron tail/return > take down. HP Fighting is an option, if you have it.

shiftry (again dont ask)
mega dragin (giga not enough pp)
shadow ball (i think)
sythesis
swagger
Lots of options - shadow ball + brick break (no resist), extra sensory, Sunnybeam, faint attack, nature power (ok, so that move works better elsewhere). Depends on what you want.

Groudon
solarbeam (sunrays)
eq
flamethrower (sun always hits + more power)
??? currently bulk up
Swords Dance > Bulk up, trust me. Sunny beam groudon isn't that good, go for physical. EQ, Rock Slide, Swords Dance, Flamethrower/HP (Physical)

salamence
hydropump
crunch
flamethrower
dragon claw
AHHHHHHHHH. No elemence, please. Dragon Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, Aerial Ace.

charzard
flamethrower
rockslide
areal ace
brick breack (mabye eq)
I like dragon dance on there, and brick break so it hits some rock types better (then again, I use him as a good t-tar counter when going against my friend).

gyarados
dragon dance
surf
ice beam
eq
Dragon Dance, EQ, HP Flying/Rock/Iron Tail, Return/Substitute. thats about all of the useful moves it gets (not even wing attack :O )

feraligatr
surf
ice beam
areal ace
eq
Surf, Ice Beam, Crunch, Rest. Or, Swords Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, Aerial Ace/Ice beam/Brick Break. Ice beam takes out the ony 2 that resist eq and rock slide. Aerial Ace hits grasses and fighting types hard. Brick Break takes out darks.

clefable (stupid idea to raise)
ice beam
metronome
flamethrower
calm mind
Put on softboiled/wish > metronome, and t-bolt > flamethrower.

crobat (shinie yay read sig)
crunch (if can not sure) (currently toxic)
areal ace
hyper beam
sludgebomb
No. shadow ball > hyper beam. HP Fighting > crunch/toxic.

KEERTAN wrote:

metagross @ bright powder:

meteor mash
explosion
shadow ball
psychic(i will replace this with EQ if i get a TM)

Drop Bright Powder for Shell Bell or Lum Berry. Drop Exlosion for Sludge Bomb and Psychic for Earthquake (would be good) or Aerial Ace (if possible) or Brick Break (for example: Chansey or a light-screener).

blaziken @ focus band:

blaze kick
sky uppercut
rock slide
slash(going to replace with thunderpunch very soon)

Drop the Band for Scope Lens or Shell Bell or Lum Berry. Keep Slash and Blaze Kick, consider Brick Break over Sky Uppercut, and drop Rock Slide for Focus Energy.

tyranitar @ quick claw:

earthquake
rock slide
crunch
hyper beam(for back-up)

Drop Quick Claw for Lum Berry or Shell Bell. Drop Hyperbeam for Brick Break or Substitute, Crunch for Shadow Ball or Focus Punch, and consider Aerial Ace over Rock Slide.

kyogre @ leftovers:

thunder
ice beam
hydro pump
calm mind

Standard-ish, Surf over hydropump

groudon @ shell bell:

earthquake
rock slide
bulk up
solarbeam(i dont want it so please tell me another good move)

Very simple, my friend, go to http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/383/all
The best site out there for people like you looking for free standard pokemon advice.

sceptile @ scope lens:
leaf blade
thunderpunch
dragon claw
iron tail(so i cant lose to mirror coat)

Drop the Scope for a Lum or Shell Bell. Breed for Modest and Crunch.

Da HAMSTEr wrote:

This guy's to be used primarely in the Battle Dome, specifically to take down Dome Ace Tucker (I have a Sceptile to use on his Swampert).

{blaziken}

- Niave @ ?
E.V.'s - 252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Bulk Up
EQ
Rockslide
Flamethrower

I do not want a Cricten (or whatever).

Huh? I don't use Crickets myself, but whatever. Breed for Adamant then, forget speed, EVs as they are. Drop Bulk Up for Aerial Ace or Brick Break, and consider Mirror Move over Rock Slide.

xerod1 wrote:

soo....rate my team!

Please would be nice.

lvl 61 Ninetales

grudge
flamethrower
fire spin
imprison

Drop Fire Spin for Substitute or Confuse Ray. Spite or Will-o-Wisp over Imprison.

lvl 74 kyogre

hydropump
rest
sheer cold
surf

Thunder over Hydropump, Ice Beam over Sheer Cold, Calm Mind or Substitute over Rest.

lvl 67 gengar

psychic
hypnosis
nightmare
dream eater

Reasonably standard, consider Giga Drain or Thunderbolt over Nightmare.

lvl 100 rayquaza

rest
extremespeed
outrage
fly

Decide spec and check http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/384/all

lvl 73 groudon

fire blast
rest
fissure
solarbeam

Check http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/383/all

P.S. Ninetales, kyogre, rayquaza, and groudon had the beneficial virus Poke'Rus

havent decided last member...possibly palkia, mespirit, uxie, azelf, or gardevoir, or some starter.

With all those sweepers? Nah, go with a tanker. Maybe Lugia.

sean wrote:

is this a good entei for my friend he wanted to ask u guys is this a good team of three i personaly think no one can beat him

entei nature seriues
moves
sunny day
solarbeam (from above hits always and destroys all water types goanna hurt it)
flamethrower
eq (i think is there if not than it must be calm mind i forget)

*sigh* Entei is a physical sweeper: http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/244/all
so while yes special moves are fine, you should be looking at physical attacks: Stomp, Substitute, Iron Tail, Facade. That last move is Calm Mind, 'cuz Entei can't learn Earthquake. Worst case is a mixed sweeper. Can't change nature, but a Modest would be nice here.

also he has another poke it has
tyranitar timid nature
icebeam
eq
areal ace
thunder bolt / crunch

A timid Tyranitar? Interesting. Again, a physical sweeper. Earthqake and Aerial Ace are fine, Brick Break, Iron Tail, Thunderwave, Ancient Power, Stomp, Dragon Dance over Ice Beam, Thunderbolt and Crunch. An Adamant nature would be nice. Or an Impish.

lastly registeel
superpower
eq
areal ace
thunderbolt

Explosion over Superpower. Your high defenses should get and hold you to the end of your HP bar in time for it.

Author:	Gnaaye [ Mon May 14, 2007 7:36 am ]
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sean wrote: JUST A COUPLE OFF QUESTIONS FOR THE SCEPTILE WITH CRUNCH WHO DO I BREED IT WITH TWO IS THIS GOOD TO ADD AND TAKE SOMETHING OFF FOR IT OR NO LUGIA HYDROPUMP /SURF AEROBLAST PSYCHIC / THUNDERBOLT EQ HOW DO I TURN MY CAPS LOCK OFF? SAIRAM, there is something called Rare Candy, and also you can get 2 breeding moves at once - Crunch and DBreath if you breed a Mence with Sceptile.

Author:	Saanaito [ Mon May 14, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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Instead of training a Salamence, you could train a Bagon with Everstone. It won't evolve, so it will learn the moves faster. Bagon learns Crunch at lvl. 41, and Salamence learns Crunch at lv. 61. Training Bagon will also take less EXP points, iirc.

Author:	SAIRAM [ Mon May 14, 2007 9:56 pm ]
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Saanaito wrote: Training Bagon will also take less EXP points, iirc. No it wont. Gnaaye is'nt Dragon Claw superior to Dragon Breath? And who would waste precious Rare Candies :roll:

Author:	Peanut-Lover [ Mon May 14, 2007 10:45 pm ]
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ragon Claw is better for damage, but dragonbreath has a nice paralysis rate. It also conserves a TM (1 time only tm, might I add?) And, before anyone gets the idea of "Oh, do the bagon, as it gets dragon claw", it won't pass on to treeko (treeko can't learn TM02 normally).

Author:	xchaos [ Tue May 15, 2007 12:06 am ]
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um how exactly do you chose what type of TM 10 you get? any way back on track - Fire blast - Brick Break - Rock Tomb - Blaze Kick - aireal ace - dragon claw - extreeme speed - drgon dance - fireblast - sword dance - bite - slash and that the pokemon I want to rate

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Author:	Peanut-Lover [ Tue May 15, 2007 2:28 am ]
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xchaos wrote: um how exactly do you chose what type of TM 10 you get? You see, it is based on Deter Values, or how far from the maximum values you are. IT is the correct combination of DVs that gives you the type that you want.<<<Click> Rock Tomb. Regardless, flamethrower > blaze kick, and either bulk up or swords dance (tutor) > fire blast. - aireal ace - dragon claw - extreeme speed - drgon dance Earthquake, brick break, iron tail, or rock slide > Dragon Claw. Keep it one type, mixed sweeping isn't that easy (flamethrower hits alot, thats why I said that for your blaziken) - fireblast - sword dance - bite - slash Swords Dance is good. But throw on 3 of baton pass, aerial ace, rock slide, Shadow Ball, and body slam/return and that the pokemon I want to rate Where are the others in your team? Is this for the emerald battle fronteir?

Author:	SAIRAM [ Tue May 15, 2007 2:31 am ]
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About that Metagross I tried to get another Adamant one but could'nt do it I got one Careful and one Jolyy these are it's DV's Careful Beldum's DV's: HP:24,25 Atk:30,31 Def:20,21 Spd:2,3 Sp.Atk:20,21,22 Sp.Def:20,21 Jolly Beldum's DV's: HP:0,1 Atk:10,11 Def:20,21 Spd:4,5 Sp.Atk:16,17 Sp.Def:19 The Careful one wins quite easily but I just wanted to check the Nature with you. The moveset is 228Atk 94Spd 76HP 52Def and Sp.Def Agility EQ Meteor Mash Explosion Thanks in advance.

Author:	wenziz [ Tue May 15, 2007 4:08 am ]
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Hey all, I checked and found you guys here and I was all like "Woah! So that's what happened!" Still doesn't explain the dry spell of alerts, but who knows with my kind of luck. SAIRAM wrote: About that Metagross I tried to get another Adamant one but could'nt do it I got one Careful and one Jolyy these are it's DV's Careful Beldum's DV's: HP:24,25 Atk:30,31 Def:20,21 Spd:2,3 Sp.Atk:20,21,22 Sp.Def:20,21 Jolly Beldum's DV's: HP:0,1 Atk:10,11 Def:20,21 Spd:4,5 Sp.Atk:16,17 Sp.Def:19 The Careful one wins quite easily but I just wanted to check the Nature with you. The moveset is 228Atk 94Spd 76HP 52Def and Sp.Def Agility EQ Meteor Mash Explosion I agree Metagross's speed's nothing to write home about, but don't worry about it so much unless you're up against a big meany (ie, some flame spitter like Rayquaza). Shadow Ball or Sludge Bomb over Agility. Earthquake and Meteor Mash are fine, but drop Explosion. Metagross is an excellent physical tank and a reasonable (if done right) overall tank. Therefore, you'll want Aerial Ace or something along those lines there (eg. Sludge Bomb) because the first 3 aren't going to cut it on their own. My personal opinion is Brick Break and Shadow Ball, then you build from there, but some say Meteor Mash (for STAB) over Brick Break. Your choice there. More importantly, put your EVs together. I agree with the Speed, SD, and the Att, but you don't really need HP here. Metagross's HP is reasonable enough, and its defense is excellent. Instead, focus on 3 (primary and 2 secondaries) so you get more out of them. I'd suggest a bucketload of Att, and a bunch of SD, and dump the remainder in speed (eg. 252-Att 150-SD 108-Speed) Thanks in advance.

Author:	Sycodik Genius [ Tue May 15, 2007 1:50 pm ]
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I'm trying a new team for link battles hydropump d-claw doubleedge fly thunder dig crunch reflect razorleaf gigadrain bodyslam lightscreen t-bolt hypnosis dreameater hiddenpower(Ice) recover psykic fly d-claw doubleedge irontail dig hyperbeam

Author:	Pokemaniac [ Tue May 15, 2007 3:21 pm ]
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Sycodik Genius wrote: I'm trying a new team for link battles hydropump d-claw doubleedge fly All of these moves need to be replaced. Breed for D-Dance, and then put on Earth Quake, Aerial Ace, Rock Slide. Or even Steel Wing or Brick Break instead. thunder dig crunch reflect Thunder Bolt for Thunder. You could go for a Special Hidden Power like Ice or Grass for Dig. If not use Thunder Wave. razorleaf gigadrain bodyslam lightscreen Meganium is frail when it comes to making moves. You could go for a Sunny-Beaming set (Solar Beam, Sunny Day, Synthesis, and HP Fire or Giga Drain). t-bolt hypnosis dreameater hiddenpower(Ice) Replace Hypnosis for Psychic, put on Fire Punch for Dream Eater. And use Calm Mind for HP Ice. recover psykic fly d-claw Get rid of Fly and Recover for Thunder Bolt, and Ice Beam. You could also use Calm Mind for Dragon Claw if you like but it can stay. doubleedge irontail dig hyperbeam This set needs some work done on it. Earth Quake for Dig, Rest for Hyper Beam, as for Double-Edge it can stay if it has Rock Head. If not use Rock Slide.

Author:	sean [ Tue May 15, 2007 10:36 pm ]
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how is this lugia? lv 100 serius nature attacks surf earthquake psychic aeroblast or areal ace recover thunderbolt eq what do u prefer or i could clone it on emerald and have both but i cant decide they are both good

Author:	wenziz [ Wed May 16, 2007 1:22 am ]
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sean wrote: how is this lugia? lv 100 serius nature attacks First thing to do is realize that Lugia's best points are its defensive stats. Therefore, any attack you put on will not be of terribly great effect unlike (say) Rayquaza. Play to your strengths, not your weaknesses: consider a Hitmonchan (great attack but terrible SA) using elemental punches. Next, survey your movepool: Your offensive stats are low, so your next option is your movepool. Your choice is physical or special, and the pool is reasonably large enough that you're not uncomfortably restricted, unlike Gyarados for example. Last, its role in battle: Clearly a sponge, though it needs offensive ability. Therefore consider EV training carefully. Being a sponge, 1 move is immediately necessary: Recover. Otherwise, consider your choices carefully. surf earthquake psychic aeroblast Aeroblast is fine, as is Psychic. Recover over Surf, and Earthquake is fine. In this case, the bulk of your offensive effort is physical in nature. Stick with high powered moves. Surf is simple damage, Earthquake can compoud things (Dig, partners) and Aeroblast has a high crit rate. Psychic (plain and simple) is STAB. or areal ace recover thunderbolt eq If you're using a flying move, go with Aeroblast. As I said your primary role is a sponge so don't worry about hitting so much. Thunderbolt's fine, but since you've already a physical option, use Psychic over Earthquake. Otherwise, consider Shadow Ball instead. what do u prefer or i could clone it on emerald and have both but i cant decide they are both good Your poke, so up to you. More improtantly, remember you have other options open to you: Ice Beam, Giga Drain, Steel Wing, Light Sreen, Shock Wave, and Reflect. Ice Beam can freeze like Thunderbolt can Paralyze (unlike Surf), Giga Drain is good for spongers (healtH), and LS/R halve damage. Shock Wave is like a loose plug in that it's basically Aerial Ace in special mode.

Author:	hfxjus [ Wed May 16, 2007 1:41 am ]
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Is this Linoonne in emerald good? @choice band Adamant nature/Male ~ covet ~ return ~ subsitute ~ shadow ball

Author:	wenziz [ Wed May 16, 2007 2:05 am ]
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hfxjus wrote: Is this Linoonne in emerald good? @choice band Adamant nature/Male ~ covet ~ return ~ subsitute ~ shadow ball That, I'm afraid, would depend on what it's being used for. I forsee it would be a complete failure against Snorlax if done properly. Onto the moveset proper. 1) Great that there'r no special-type attacks because Linoone's Att is greater than its SA, more so as an adamant. 2) I'm not sure Covet is such a good thing, because high speed is usually used to deal damage faster. I'm going to suggest Slash, Rest, HP Fighting, or Extreme Speed. 3) Shadow Ball is fine and should stay. 4) If you're using Substitute, I reccomend Belly Drum along wtih it. Cuts your hp to 1/4, but maxes out your attack and gives you cover at the same time. My own Linoone used those 2 inconjunction with Slash and Shadow Ball to great effect. Got all the way to Drake before he lost to Altaria. Good luck.

Author:	elite42 [ Fri May 18, 2007 6:04 pm ]
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IMO you should put Poison Fang and/or HP Physical for Take Down and/or Swagger And from experience Mightyena's sp. atk does not go all that well so try something else besides crunch this is only my opinion

Author:	sean [ Sat May 19, 2007 7:38 pm ]
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thanx alot i know its hard work doing them and i gave alot at once i apreaciate it

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Author:	Stratele [ Wed May 16, 2007 11:38 am ]
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my team woo! Their not EV trained cause ive only just found out about it and they all know the HM's cause this is the team I use all the time, more convient. Dragon Claw Flash Waterfall Psychic Thunder bolt Strength Thunder Double Team Leaf Blade Giga Drain Cut Solerbeam Flamethrower Skyuppercut Fireblast Blaze Kick Dive Earthquake Surf Protect Dragon Breath Rock Smash (temted to replace) Fly Flamethrower Their all at level 74 as well!

Author:	wenziz [ Thu May 17, 2007 2:16 am ]
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Welcome to psypoke forums Stratele wrote: my team woo! Their not EV trained cause ive only just found out about it and they all know the HM's cause this is the team I use all the time, more convient. More convenient to have a couple of HM slaves instead. Dragon Claw Flash Waterfall Psychic Taking into account what's up there, drop Waterfall and Flash for Recover/Thunderbolt and Ice Beam. Thunder bolt Strength Thunder Double Team Crunch over Thunder, Agility or HP Special over Strength. Leaf Blade Giga Drain Cut Solerbeam Breed for Crunch over Giga Drain, Thunderpunch over Cut, Dragon Claw or Dragon Breath (breed) over Solarbeam. Flamethrower Skyuppercut Fireblast Blaze Kick Consider Brick Break over Sky Uppercut, Focus Energy over Flamethrower, and Slash over Fire Blast. Dive Earthquake Surf Protect Surf and Earthquake are fine, Brick Break or Rock Slide over Dive, HP Ghost or Endeavour over Protect. Dragon Breath Rock Smash (temted to replace) Fly Flamethrower Salamence is physical in nature (go look up the psydex). Steel Wing, Earthquake, Aerial Ace, or Rock Slide over Fly, Rock Smash, and Flamethrower. Dragon Breath is alright (STAB) but I advise changing it for another physical. Their all at level 74 as well!

Author:	sean [ Thu May 17, 2007 2:57 am ]
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these are just a whole heap of my stuff that i need checking up on sceptile dragon claw eq crunch leaf blade / leech seed / giga drain thinking or adding a thunderpunch in there somewhere i really like him he is always with me he is my starter blazekein flamethrower skyuppercut thunderpunch areal ace NOTE I WANT EQ SOMEWHERE HERE IF NEEDED swampmert icebeam surf eq rock tomb mightyeena (dont ask why its lv 100 just give me good moves) crunch shadowball swagger ??? currently takedown shiftry (again dont ask) mega dragin (giga not enough pp) shadow ball (i think) sythesis swagger Groudon solarbeam (sunrays) eq flamethrower (sun always hits + more power) ??? currently bulk up salamence hydropump crunch flamethrower dragon claw charzard flamethrower rockslide areal ace brick breack (mabye eq) gyarados dragon dance surf ice beam eq feraligatr surf ice beam areal ace eq clefable (stupid idea to raise) ice beam metronome flamethrower calm mind crobat (shinie yay read sig) crunch (if can not sure) (currently toxic) areal ace hyper beam sludgebomb

Author:	Peanut-Lover [ Sat May 19, 2007 8:12 am ]
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sean wrote: these are just a whole heap of my stuff that i need checking up on sceptile dragon claw eq crunch leaf blade / leech seed / giga drain thinking or adding a thunderpunch in there somewhere i really like him he is always with me he is my starter Special sweeper =/= EQ. t-punch or leech seed instead. Definately not giga drain, though. blazekein flamethrower skyuppercut thunderpunch areal ace Instead of aerial ace and t-punch, put on swords dance/bullk up and EQ/Rock Slide. NOTE I WANT EQ SOMEWHERE HERE IF NEEDED swampmert icebeam surf eq rock tomb Curse/Rest/Roar/Rock Slide/Brick Break > Rock Tomb. mightyeena (dont ask why its lv 100 just give me good moves) crunch shadowball swagger ??? currently takedown Poison fang > crunch. iron tail/return > take down. HP Fighting is an option, if you have it. shiftry (again dont ask) mega dragin (giga not enough pp) shadow ball (i think) sythesis swagger Lots of options - shadow ball + brick break (no resist), extra sensory, Sunnybeam, faint attack, nature power (ok, so that move works better elsewhere). Depends on what you want. Groudon solarbeam (sunrays) eq flamethrower (sun always hits + more power) ??? currently bulk up Swords Dance > Bulk up, trust me. Sunny beam groudon isn't that good, go for physical. EQ, Rock Slide, Swords Dance, Flamethrower/HP (Physical) salamence hydropump crunch flamethrower dragon claw AHHHHHHHHH. No elemence, please. Dragon Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, Aerial Ace. charzard flamethrower rockslide areal ace brick breack (mabye eq) I like dragon dance on there, and brick break so it hits some rock types better (then again, I use him as a good t-tar counter when going against my friend). gyarados dragon dance surf ice beam eq Dragon Dance, EQ, HP Flying/Rock/Iron Tail, Return/Substitute. thats about all of the useful moves it gets (not even wing attack :O ) feraligatr surf ice beam areal ace eq Surf, Ice Beam, Crunch, Rest. Or, Swords Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, Aerial Ace/Ice beam/Brick Break. Ice beam takes out the ony 2 that resist eq and rock slide. Aerial Ace hits grasses and fighting types hard. Brick Break takes out darks. clefable (stupid idea to raise) ice beam metronome flamethrower calm mind Put on softboiled/wish > metronome, and t-bolt > flamethrower. crobat (shinie yay read sig) crunch (if can not sure) (currently toxic) areal ace hyper beam sludgebomb No. shadow ball > hyper beam. HP Fighting > crunch/toxic.

Author:	KEERTAN [ Mon May 21, 2007 6:28 am ]
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metagross @ bright powder: meteor mash explosion shadow ball psychic(i will replace this with EQ if i get a TM) blaziken @ focus band: blaze kick sky uppercut rock slide slash(going to replace with thunderpunch very soon) tyranitar @ quick claw: earthquake rock slide crunch hyper beam(for back-up) kyogre @ leftovers: thunder ice beam hydro pump calm mind groudon @ shell bell: earthquake rock slide bulk up solarbeam(i dont want it so please tell me another good move) sceptile @ scope lens: leaf blade thunderpunch dragon claw iron tail(so i cant lose to mirror coat)

Author:	Da HAMSTEr [ Mon May 21, 2007 12:03 pm ]
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This guy's to be used primarely in the Battle Dome, specifically to take down Dome Ace Tucker (I have a Sceptile to use on his Swampert). - Niave @ ? E.V.'s - 252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP Bulk Up EQ Rockslide Flamethrower I do not want a Cricten (or whatever).

Author:	xerod1 [ Mon May 21, 2007 4:21 pm ]
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soo....rate my team! lvl 61 Ninetales grudge flamethrower fire spin imprison lvl 74 kyogre hydropump rest sheer cold surf lvl 67 gangar psychic hypnosis nightmare dream eater lvl 100 rayquaza rest extremespeed outrage fly lvl 73 groudon fire blast rest fissure solarbeam P.S. Ninetales, kyogre, rayquaza, and groudon had the beneficial virus Poke'Rus havent decided last member...possibly palkia, mespirit, uxie, azelf, or gardevoir, or some starter.

Author:	sean [ Tue May 22, 2007 1:29 am ]
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is this a good entei for my friend he wanted to ask u guys is this a good team of three i personaly think no one can beat him entei nature seriues moves sunny day solarbeam (from above hits always and destroys all water types goanna hurt it) flamethrower eq (i think is there if not than it must be calm mind i forget) also he has another poke it has tyranitar timid nature icebeam eq areal ace thunder bolt / crunch lastly registeel superpower eq areal ace thunderbolt

Author:	wenziz [ Tue May 22, 2007 2:54 am ]
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KEERTAN wrote: metagross @ bright powder: meteor mash explosion shadow ball psychic(i will replace this with EQ if i get a TM) Drop Bright Powder for Shell Bell or Lum Berry. Drop Exlosion for Sludge Bomb and Psychic for Earthquake (would be good) or Aerial Ace (if possible) or Brick Break (for example: Chansey or a light-screener). blaziken @ focus band: blaze kick sky uppercut rock slide slash(going to replace with thunderpunch very soon) Drop the Band for Scope Lens or Shell Bell or Lum Berry. Keep Slash and Blaze Kick, consider Brick Break over Sky Uppercut, and drop Rock Slide for Focus Energy. tyranitar @ quick claw: earthquake rock slide crunch hyper beam(for back-up) Drop Quick Claw for Lum Berry or Shell Bell. Drop Hyperbeam for Brick Break or Substitute, Crunch for Shadow Ball or Focus Punch, and consider Aerial Ace over Rock Slide. kyogre @ leftovers: thunder ice beam hydro pump calm mind Standard-ish, Surf over hydropump groudon @ shell bell: earthquake rock slide bulk up solarbeam(i dont want it so please tell me another good move) Very simple, my friend, go to http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/383/all The best site out there for people like you looking for free standard pokemon advice. sceptile @ scope lens: leaf blade thunderpunch dragon claw iron tail(so i cant lose to mirror coat) Drop the Scope for a Lum or Shell Bell. Breed for Modest and Crunch. Da HAMSTEr wrote: This guy's to be used primarely in the Battle Dome, specifically to take down Dome Ace Tucker (I have a Sceptile to use on his Swampert). - Niave @ ? E.V.'s - 252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 HP Bulk Up EQ Rockslide Flamethrower I do not want a Cricten (or whatever). Huh? I don't use Crickets myself, but whatever. Breed for Adamant then, forget speed, EVs as they are. Drop Bulk Up for Aerial Ace or Brick Break, and consider Mirror Move over Rock Slide. xerod1 wrote: soo....rate my team! Please would be nice. lvl 61 Ninetales grudge flamethrower fire spin imprison Drop Fire Spin for Substitute or Confuse Ray. Spite or Will-o-Wisp over Imprison. lvl 74 kyogre hydropump rest sheer cold surf Thunder over Hydropump, Ice Beam over Sheer Cold, Calm Mind or Substitute over Rest. lvl 67 gengar psychic hypnosis nightmare dream eater Reasonably standard, consider Giga Drain or Thunderbolt over Nightmare. lvl 100 rayquaza rest extremespeed outrage fly Decide spec and check http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/384/all lvl 73 groudon fire blast rest fissure solarbeam Check http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/383/all P.S. Ninetales, kyogre, rayquaza, and groudon had the beneficial virus Poke'Rus havent decided last member...possibly palkia, mespirit, uxie, azelf, or gardevoir, or some starter. With all those sweepers? Nah, go with a tanker. Maybe Lugia. sean wrote: is this a good entei for my friend he wanted to ask u guys is this a good team of three i personaly think no one can beat him entei nature seriues moves sunny day solarbeam (from above hits always and destroys all water types goanna hurt it) flamethrower eq (i think is there if not than it must be calm mind i forget) sigh Entei is a physical sweeper: http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/244/all so while yes special moves are fine, you should be looking at physical attacks: Stomp, Substitute, Iron Tail, Facade. That last move is Calm Mind, 'cuz Entei can't learn Earthquake. Worst case is a mixed sweeper. Can't change nature, but a Modest would be nice here. also he has another poke it has tyranitar timid nature icebeam eq areal ace thunder bolt / crunch A timid Tyranitar? Interesting. Again, a physical sweeper. Earthqake and Aerial Ace are fine, Brick Break, Iron Tail, Thunderwave, Ancient Power, Stomp, Dragon Dance over Ice Beam, Thunderbolt and Crunch. An Adamant nature would be nice. Or an Impish. lastly registeel superpower eq areal ace thunderbolt Explosion over Superpower. Your high defenses should get and hold you to the end of your HP bar in time for it.