I redid it to include the aforementioned Mixmence andn Curselax.
so SKY FORCE HYPER TEAM ALPHA MEGA SUPER RAY BEAM EXPLOSION EAGLE... mark 2.

@Leftovers
252 HP / 200 Def / 58 Atk
Sturdy / Impish
Toxic Spikes
Skill SwapWell, I scracthed my head seeing this. This slot normaly gives EQ or Gyro ball a slot.
Rapid Spin
Explosion

No changes.
Skill Swap on a Forrey? I suppose if your oppnent has something nice, but I really recomend an attacking move.
Friends: Heatran (gets a boost from a likely fire attack), Dusknoir (stops rapid spinners) & Snorlax (resists fire).


@Leftovers
252 HP / 193 SpDef / 65 Def
Pressure / Impish
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Sneak
ThunderPunch

Definately not Destiny Bond & took your advice on the EV's.
A basic Tank. Only option there is Ice Punch over Thunder Punch, but it makes no difference.
Friends: Snorlax (If attracts a ghost attack), Weavile (fragile, but resists dark & ghost) & Heatran (also resists dark & ghost).


@Choice Scarf
252 SpAtk / 236 Speed / 20 HP
Flash Fire / Modest
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Dark PulseUm, you can keep it if you want, but i suggest Explosion
Dragon PulseLack of power to OHKO most Dragons, so use HP Ice if you can.

No changes. Actually has quite a slim movepool offensively. I realised a ground-type attack is much more likely (hence Salamence).
Friends: Salamence (If attracts a ground attack, fighting is resisted also), Snorlax (can sport an unexpected Seed Bomb to threatening waters).


@Life Orb
252 SpAtk / 120 Atk / 136 Speed
Intimidate / Rash
Brick Break
Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
EarthquakeCrunch?

Meet the new half of the team! My only concern is it's diminishing HP. I put it Rash because I think Special is more temporary thanks to DM.
It's a Mixmence. Up to you on the last move, but I think Crunch would be nice.
Friends: Heatran (4x resists Salamences 4x weakness), Snorlax (Resists, not as much as Heatran), Forretress (Physical ice especially).


@Leftovers
160 HP / 220 Def / 120 SpDef / 8 Atk
Thick Fat / Careful
Curse
Rest
Return
Seed Bomb

Literally everyone's friend. Added shock factor with Seed Bomb. Smogon seems to think Curselax rather tank like, more than beefy offensive.
Interesting idea with Seed Bomb. But remember, EQ, Fire Punch and Crunch are other options.
Friends: Dusknoir (immune to Snorlax's only weakness).


@Choice Band
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed
Pressure / Jolly
Pursuit
Ice Shard
Aerial Ace
X-Scissor

This is more the utilized version, with something to catch switchers and something to catch the ridiculously fast. Smogon's has two dark moves :/
Smogon's set may have 2 Dark moves, but they are STAB moves too. It's a swap for Nightslash on X-scissor
Friends: Snorlax (Fire = good, fight = bad), Dusknoir (Immune to most noticable weakness), Heatran (Fire), Salamence (Resists fighting).


I based this team's coverage on the top ten pokemon used on shoddy which is likely to be more helpful than the entire spectrum.
Is this a step up?Looks fine overall. Now you can see why they were the top 10

hi, i would prefer these pokemon to be rated separately please, these are in preperation for my final team (some of these wont be included)

1. probopass: leftovers: bold/calm
ev's: 255hp 100def 155sp def
Stealth Rock
Thunder Wave/Toxic
Earth Power
Hidden Power Rock/Flash Canon
i cant decide what moves he should know, persomally there is too much choise for him. i would like sandstorm but i dont know wether to add it or not. i know he has two 4 times weaknesses but he has great defences.
The moves there are the Smogon Set for a walling Probopass.

2. espeon: wise glasses: timid
ev's: 255sp atk 255 spd
grass knot
shadow ball
psychic
calm mind
this espeon has worked so well for me. he has over 350 spd and sp atk which i think is pretty good.
Looks fine to me

3. umbreon: leftovers: impish (really bad iv's in def)
ev's: 255 hp 100 sp def 155 def
toxic
confuse ray
moonlightWish
protectPayback
this is my annoyer. he has great defences. but the protect, i dont know wether to keep it or not.
Normally, no Confuse Ray. But, as you want an Annoyer keep it and change Protect.

4. alacazam: wise glasses/focus sash: hasty (i was hopeing for timid but then he came along with great iv's so i chose him)
ev's: 255 sp atk 255 spd
psychic
energy ball
shadow ball
charge beam
he has about 380 sp atk and spd. same use as espeon but a little better.
Sorry to say, but thats a poor total Speed with that nature. Stick some Choice Specs on him and your off.

i dont know how to train: glaceon, leafeon, vapereon, flareon, jolteon. if you could recomend two for me to use i would be greatful. (you dont have to give me details if you dont want to/if you have more work to do)
Umm, most of the Eeveelutions dont really have many options. Vaporeon is there for a SP Wall, Jolteon is for passing a Sub. Other than that you have only Leafeon as Physical attacker.

final 1: gliscor: jolly: leftovers?Choice Band
ev's: 68HP, 200ATK, 188Spe
ice fang
earthquake
u-turn
Thunder Fang
i dont no what final move for him. and because of his def/spd/atk capabilities i dont know how to ev train him.
normally a Wall, Gliscor has a good ATK. With the moves you have, it's only Thunder Fang away from a Choice Band set

thanks very much for rateing my team. its appreciated a lot.

Well, thats the lot done, the usual PM me with questions or comments.

Sashimi
Kingdra
Modest @ Haban berry. Swift swim
140 HP, 252 S.ATK, 116 SPEED
-Ice Beam
-Yawn
-Surf
-Rain dance

Purpose:Lead/Dragon Counter

Strategy
Depending on what the opposing lead is likely to do:
Boost stat(s)
Yawn them unless their likely to be carrying a Lum berry. Weville, DD Gyra and BPers are ideal. then set up rain on their switch
Give Status:
Switch out for snorlax/Mismagius, as snorlax absorbs sleep and can rest off anything else and mismagius's Lum heals status. Snorlax walls out common status leads such as Gengar, Bronzong and Yanmega.
Taunts:
Attack.
Sets up weather, rocks, spikes/ stalls or is unlikely to do sufficient damage.
Set up rain and Surf. TTar is unable to OHKO kingdra even w/ a DD and outrage(if haban is there). and without the sand and rain's boost it's an easy OHKO to TTar.(or two hit if it's sashed)
Dragons.
Set rain up if necessary, Haban berry will make any dragon attack a 2HKO, and after rain Kingdra will outspeed all but jolly scarfed ones. Then Ice beam.

Looks alright.


Pinot Noir
Mismagius
Calm @ Lum Berry. Levitate
252 HP, 40 DEF, 52 S.ATK, 164 S.DEF
-Skill Swap
-Destiny Bond
-Icy Wind
-Thunderbolt

Purpose:Status and Stall.

Strategy
Switch in on a KO, status or ground/normal/fight moves, then skill swap or attack with boltbeam. The reasoning behind these off type moves is that most expect at least Shadow ball and switch accordingly to, which can be rendered a free switch in for normals and darks. Icy wind helps break the speed of sweepers. Pain split to stay healthy, Skill swap if she can take advantage of it. When things look bad use Destiny bond to grab a KO.
This is a list of skills that she can throw back in OU/BL:
Type absorbs/Flash fire/Motor Drive:Vaporeon, Launturn, Poli-wrath/toad, Lapras, Heatran, Electrivire, as they are likely to attack w/ their STAB moves since Normal/fight/ground moves are out.
Speed boost: Ninjask and Yanmega. Usually wait a turn as they both protect on the 1st and Lum protects from hypnosis.
Serene grace: Togekiss and Skymin. Neither of these Mismagius can take on well but allows a switch in to not get flinched away, as well as Lum gives her a free turn to take togekiss's T-wave.
Natural cure: Blissey mostly, Allows Mismagius to absorb any status blissey can dish and switch out at the open moment.
Guts/poison heal: Usaring, Breloom, and to a lesser extent Swellow. those who hold toxic/flame orb. Flame orb holders are screwed XD.
Shadow Tag: To get away from wobb
Technician: Now that Scizor pulls bullet punch, this skill is common and swapping it takes off some of his power. Boosts Icy wind.
Swift Swim, Sand veil, Chlorophyll, etc.: many users, though with some better candidates to steal from than others.
Static, Flame body: As mismagius cant take physical hits well, it is more of a take-you-with-me strategy.
Pure/Huge Power: Cuts Medicham and Azumarril's attack in half.
Marvel Scale Makes Milotic more open to status as well as making it think twice about attempting hypnosis.
Scrappy: Makes some miltanks and kangaskhan useless against mismagius, though not advised as both will usually carry their other ability/other type moves.
Intimidate: in 2v2 (1v1 it's kinda pointless, but it noteworthy in 2v2 as it will protect my physical partners from the loss as well as a def. boost.)

I noticed you were talking about 5 moves when you only have 4 slots (where's Pain Split?). For the strategy you're going for, you'll need to have more speed, unless you plan to relying on Icy Wind's speed drop for every Pokemon she faces. It would come in handy to skill swap before they attack, unless you plan to use it when they're switching. Pain Splitting and Destiny Bonding before they attack are handy. You could even throw in status moves like T-wave (well, Icy Wind kinda covers this...) and W-o-W, since it's supposed to status and stall.



The Chef
Alakazam
Timid @ Life Orb. Inner focus
252 S.ATK, 220 SPEED, 38 HP
-Psychic
-Signal Beam
-Future Sight
-Substitute


Purpose:Special Sweeper/Glass Cannon

Strategy
Switch in and Sub, then sweep. Bug/Psychic gives coverage to all besides steel, Future sight hits netural to all but requires good prediction to set up, but can combo off well with Hitmontop's Fake Out, Drapion's Roar or giving Mismagius an extra punch. Substitute is there for status absorption, killing the chance of a sucker punch and if it is set up it'll keep zam from going down in one hit.

Focus Blast takes care of the dark and steel types that hinder you (of course, then you'll be open to psychics walling you -- small price to pay, IMO). You can forego Future Sight for either Calm Mind or Shadow Ball (covers Psychic resistance). Careful when using Life Orb, cuz you're already using Sub. Leftovers is a nice alternate, giving you more opportunities to sub. You may as well max speed, since those HP EVs won't buffer much.


Garlic
Drapion
Adamant @ Black Sludge. Battle armor
138HP 252 ATK 40DEF 80S.DEF
-Roar
-EQ
-Crunch
-Acupressure/Swords Dance

Purpose:Physical Attacker/Tank/Stat booster.

Strategy
Acupressure on switches can turn him into a Sweeper(atk/spd), Phsy wall(def), tank(s.def), or 40% evasion rate. S.atk and accuracy(for the most part) are dud boosts which give acupressure a 72% rate to boost a good stat. Gaining Mismagius's levatiate in doubles via skill swap gives him no weakness. As well as acupressure can boost allies stats. Roar if the opponents poke has set up or if drapion can't kill, if he's lucky the can grab an acupressue if the opponent switches right back out.If luck isn't your game (or evasion clause is strict.) Swords Dance is used.

Looks alright.


Basil
Hitmontop
Adamant @ Focus sash. Technician
252 ATK, 252 HP, 4 SPEED
-Pursuit
-Fake Out
-Mach Punch
-Counter

Purpose: Revenge Killer/Priority Abuser

Strategy
Sent in on fast sweepers of both types, hits and runs. Fake out + Punch on frail sweepers or Sash+counter+punch on the sturdy physical sweepers. Pursuit on ghost/psychics that try and come in for a kill, as well as grabbing a hit on those expecting fake out and switch.

Wow, lots of priority. Looks fine.


Fondant
Snorlax
Sassy @ Thick fat. Leftovers
252 HP, 44 DEF, 160 S.DEF, 52 ATK,
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Body Slam
-Fire Punch

Purpose:Status absorber/wall.

Strategy
Can't be really creative with a Sleep talk set. Rest and sleep talk to stay healthy. Body slam for stab+Para support. Fire punch hits steels like bronzong and scizor that think they can set up on him. In 2v2 he's a fine recipient of acupressure.

Hm, I figured you were gonna go for a Curselax set. Looks fine.

I noticed you were talking about 5 moves when you only have 4 slots (where's Pain Split?). For the strategy you're going for, you'll need to have more speed, unless you plan to relying on Icy Wind's speed drop for every Pokemon she faces. It would come in handy to skill swap before they attack, unless you plan to use it when they're switching. Pain Splitting and Destiny Bonding before they attack are handy. You could even throw in status moves like T-wave (well, Icy Wind kinda covers this...) and W-o-W, since it's supposed to status and stall.

Focus Blast takes care of the dark and steel types that hinder you (of course, then you'll be open to psychics walling you -- small price to pay, IMO). You can forego Future Sight for either Calm Mind or Shadow Ball (covers Psychic resistance). Careful when using Life Orb, cuz you're already using Sub. Leftovers is a nice alternate, giving you more opportunities to sub. You may as well max speed, since those HP EVs won't buffer much.

I finally finished EV training a full team to be used, took alot longer then expected (mostly the breeding for natures). Anyway could someone please rate my team, also if you could give me some help with who should be put in the leadoff spot as well as wich items should be used since I can't use the same item on more then one poke.

Here we go...

Rapidash - Jolly - Flash Fire - Wide Lens
EVs - 252 Attack 252 Speed
Megahorn
Hypnosis
Will-O-Wisp
Flare Blitz
Basically standard, use the last few EVs in Def so you don't waste anyway.

Magnezone - Timid - Magnet Pull - Leftovers
EVs - 252 Sp Attack 84 Speed 172 HP
Hidden Power - Ground
Tri Attack
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
I don't have a clue about this. You could take out Magnet Rise and give it Choice Specs, but then you could leave it in, and use Sub over Tri-attack. It's down to what you think. And I think a Modest or Mild nature would be better.

Sharpedo - Jolly - Rough Skin - Choice Band
EVs - 252 Attack 252 Speed
Ice Fang
Crunch
Earthquake
Aqua Jet
Last 6 EVs in HP then your good to go.

Alakazam - Timid - Synchronize - Focus Band
EVs - 252 Sp Attack 252 Speed
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Charge Beam
Due to your Item Clause, I can't suggest Life Orb. Instead, Choice Specs if you dont use them on Magnezone. Last 6 EVs in SP Def

Lucario - Adamant - Steadfast - Life Orb
EVs - 252 Attack 252 Speed
Close Combat
Extreme Speed
Crunch
Swords Dance
Standard SDLuke, last 6 EVs in HP

Dugtrio - Jolly - Arena Trap - Focus Sash
Evs - 252 Attack 252 Speed
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Sucker Punch
Basic Dugtrio

I usually do not switch pokemon in and out, wich is why they are all pretty much all offensive.

Also getting ready to train two new pokemon, would they be able to fit into this team?
Flygon / Honchkrow
Well, it depends on how you train them. If you post them here when ready, I'll have a look.

Thank you in advance for all your help. CAn only hope I have helped, and sorry for the slow reply.

Well...I finished a couple pokemon for my Diamond team. Here they are.

EDIT: I changed my original team A LOT. Here's the new one.


Torterra
Adamant | @ Chesto Berry
255 ATT, 255 DEF

Earthquake
Rest
Curse
Razor Leaf
The EV spread isn't something I would suggest. If you want a Tank Torterra, use this:

Torterra@Leftovers
Impish:212 HP, 252 Def, 44 Spe
-Woodhammer
-Earthquake/Stone Edge
-Leech Seed
-Stealth Rock/Protect

This set is Fefenseive, but still powerfull. Stone Edge is you fear Salamance and Protect if you have someone else doing the Rocks.


Dusknoir
Brave | @ Enigma Berry
255 DEF, 255 SP.DEF

Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
Pain Split
Will-o-wisp
Interesting choice of nature. Go with suggested moves (rebreed for Pain Split) and you have a nice Tank. Remember that using 255 EVs, you waste 6, which I suggest go in health.


Salamence
Adamant | @ Choice Band
255 ATT, 255 SPD

Fire Fang
Crunch
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Standard and deadly.


Slaking
Adamant | @ Muscle Band
255 ATT, 255 SPD

Hammer Arm
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide
Looks like another Physical Attacker. While haveing to is no bad thing, be careful you dont come up against any Walls. Again, use 252 EVs and but the rest anywhere.


Latios
Modest | @ Petaya (SP.ATT?) Berry
255 SP.ATT, 255 SP.DEF

Ice Beam
Dragon Pulse
Thunderbolt
Recover
If you want a Stat boost Item, Soul Dew works wonders. I think Ice Beam is unneeded due to Dragon Pulse, so use Calm Mind. Once again, EVs at 252 and the rest in HP.


Alakazam
Modest | @ Wise Glasses
255 SP.ATT, 255 SPD

Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Toxic
Looks ok, but use Life Orb as item (he won't be staying long as it is). I think Toxic could work, but with no way of stalling, a bit pointless. In place I suggest Calm Mind or Charge Beam.


There they are. Hope it's better than the other, if anyone had seen it.

hi, i would like conman2k8 (doomsday) to rate this, reason: because if i disagree with him i know him personaly and can ask about the rate.
these pokemon i would prefer to be rated seperatly

Lanturn: modest: leftovers
ev's: 252hp, 100sp atk, the rest is shared between def and sp def (i dont know then exactly though)
thunderbolt
ice beam
stockpile
aqua ring
the bolt beam combo works well with type coverage. stockpile is just to set up when i have a chance to, i know it can only be done three times but im not going to get more than that many chances to use it. and leftovers and aqua ring work great together, he gains just over 50 hp per turn
So you use Stockpile for a Def boost? Well, if thats the case, Swallow makes the most of it, by healing Lanturn. If that sounds good, use it over Aqua Ring.

Cloyster: bold: leftovers
ev's: 252hp, 252def, 6sp atk
(i did want to learn rapid spin but now its a bit late)
spikes
toxic spikes
surf ???
ice beam ???
im not too sure about the last two moves. i just use this guy to set up spikes, because in alot of my newly trained pokemon i have the move roar which is a great classic combo.
It's not too late to get Rapid Spin, just rebreed. I think useing both Spikes moves isn't a good idea, as you use multiple turns setting up, so use 1 or the other and fill empty slot with Rapid Spin

Mamoswine: serious (but has max iv's in atk and hp) : Leftovers
ev's: 252atk, 252hp, 6def
roar
slealth rock
ice shard / avalance???
earthquake
i like this guy, he has great atk and hp, well above the average without the ev's given. (10-20 more)
Seeing as Serious doesn't lower anything, it'll do. It looks like a Support Mamoswine, with Roar and Stealth Rock. Ice Shard over Avalanche.

i do want to train a Floatzel but have no idea about ev's or moves, can you suggest something please?
Well, after thinking about it, a Smogon Kristy set is the one I suggest.

Flotazel@Leftovers
Jolly: 40HP, 252 Def, 216 Spe
-Taunt
-Bulk Up
-Baton Pass
-Waterfall
Using the already massive Speed, this set aims to Bulk Up first, then go from there.


thanks for the rate.

I have one crappy team I've used for shoddy for about 3 months (Before platinum changes for sure) and now it's retired.


Moltres @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 40 Def/216 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Overheat
- U-turn
- Air Slash
- Hidden Power [Ground]
Standard (other than HP Ground) Scarf Lead. No comments.
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Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP/76 SAtk/180 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Looks fine.
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Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 152 HP/252 Atk/104 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Polish
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch
Use Agility over Rock Polish, otherwise, looks ok.
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Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Avalanche
- Earthquake
- Roar
- Aqua Tail
Again, Standard, but Waterfall over Aqua Tail
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Jolteon (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Signal Beam
Again, standard, although there are better SP ATKers out there (Porygon-Z is my suggestion)
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Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 42 HP/252 Atk/216 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- X-Scissor
- Aerial Ace
The new Platinum Standard if I remember. I really like this, so much so I might buy Plat just to get one.
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Well, I don't think it's as bad as you think, although team work would improve the team.

r8 or die :0


Ambi @ Life Orb
Technician
Timid - 252 SA, 252 Spd, 6 HP
- Nasty Plot
- Swift
- Water Pulse
- Hidden Power [Dark]

NastyPom, a little creation of mine =). I got tired of all the Fake Out sets, so I came up with this little beauty. The idea is to use NP as soon as the chance arises (not against, say, a Gengar), then sweep with the appropriate move. HP Dark has a base 60 power to take advantage of Technician, which can be achieved by having all stats be 31 except Special Attack, which would be 29. But after a Nasty Plot, it doesn't really matter.

Ambi is intended to hit hard, hit fast, and pretty much do a kamikaze mission, so I really won't care if she faints as long as a fair bit of damage has been dished out.

I agree with all the Fake Out sets. This little thing could be a Nasty suprise if your opponent thinks it's a BP. I like it


Furai @ Choice Scarf
Levitate
Naughty - 252 Atk, 120 SA, 136 Spd
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- U-Turn

The awesomeness of Flygon is here! The EVs give a guaranteed OHKO on min HP/SD Salamence with Draco Meteor, and the other moves are all around solid - U-turn scouts stuff, Stone Edge hurts Flyers, and Earthquake is Earthquake, reason enough.
Nice.


Magz @ Leftovers
Magnet Pull
Modest - 172 HP, 252 SA, 84 Spd
- Substitute
- Magnet Rise
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Steel Killer, and Special Attacker if in a bind. The idea is simple: Come in on a Steel type that won't outspeed you, kill them, and pray they dont have Dugtrio. If the pokemon tends to have something like Earthquake and/or Explosion, I use Sub, then MR, then Sub again to make sure.
Basic and powerfull.

Houhon @ Choice Specs
Flash Fire
252 SA, 252 Spd, 6 Def
- Flamethrower
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Sleep Talk

A sleep absorber and attacker =). Flamethrower and Dark Pulse are the obvious STAB abusers, whist HP Ground surprises the Heatran who just switched in
Very interesting, I think this will work a treat.

CUKIMONSTA @ Leftovers
Chlorophyll
Impish - 252 HP, 212 Def, 44 Spd
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Knock Off

Sleeper/Seeder and resident cookie eater. Makes a great Gyarados counter, and deals well with Blissey (the speed EVs let me outspeed her assuming she doesn't have any evs of her own)
Nice set, awsome name. This team is shapeing up nicely

Toby @ Leftovers
Own Tempo
Bold - 252 HP, 212 Def, 44 SA
- Calm Mind
- Slack Off
- Surf
- Psychic

Tanker truck: He is slow, but let him build up power and someone is going to get hurt. The idea is simply to Calm Mind as much as possible, Slack Off the damage, repeat, and sweep. GG

I like this Slowbro. I like this team. I didn't have to suggest much, but that's because it's a good team.