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Author:  DeathEmpr [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:24 pm ]
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Yea, Mew is very rare.....u have to attend a Nintendo Event and i know most ppl can't attend them.

Author:  grandmaster192 [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:46 pm ]
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Mew is no more powerful then any other 600 base stat pokemon.

Author:  Crunchy [ Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:45 pm ]
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Mew has one of the best stats in the game and can learn every move you can get your hands on... using him is cheating. But they are still cool.

Author:  grandmaster192 [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:24 am ]
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Charly wrote:
Mew has one of the best stats in the game and can learn every move you can get your hands on... using him is cheating. But they are still cool.


Mew does not have the some of the best stats in the game. Give 1 example of what Mew can do thats cheap. He won't sweep your team, wall anything out, or nothing like that. Anything he can do there's a normal pokemon who can do it better. I feel I can name atleast 20 better pokemon then Mew.

The only reason people say Mew is cheap is becuase of how powerful Mewtwo is. And how their story lines link them to each other. If there was no Mewtwo Mew would not be considerd cheap. Just like how the Lati@s's are both considerd cheap.

A pefect example of what I mean is:
Mew sweeper<Alakazam/Salamence
Mew wall<Blissy/Skarmory

Those are just little examples of what I'm talkin about. I gonna make another post like this about Rayquaza.

Author:  Sefrin [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:35 am ]
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personally i never use legendaries, mostly because every one else does.
I like to be original so i try to use pokemon that other people tend to avoid.

Also, creating a team of nothing but legendaries not only proves your a noob but also that your heart is not really in the game, as it shows your more concerned with winning with a ridiculously powerful team than with a weaker team made up of your favourite pokemon.

Author:  Cal [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:48 am ]
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Sefrin wrote:
personally i never use legendaries, mostly because every one else does.
I like to be original so i try to use pokemon that other people tend to avoid.

Also, creating a team of nothing but legendaries not only proves your a noob but also that your heart is not really in the game, as it shows your more concerned with winning with a ridiculously powerful team than with a weaker team made up of your favourite pokemon.


I agree,
legendary teams are for n00bs who think they rock.
and little do they no a lot of people with non-legendary teams could pwn them, as n00bs have totally random EVs and crap movesets.

Author:  DeathEmpr [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:59 am ]
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Now lets not get carried away here, using a legendary or two is ok and all, but a whole team of them seems quite demeaning. For myself though, I don't use legendaries and I will never use one, but it doesn't mean I will train them or anything, I just won't use them in battle. We can't really call ppl using legendaries noobs, because we know they aren't, only time we can is when they get a party full of ubers.

Author:  2x4b [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:06 pm ]
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I don't mind 1 Legendary in a team, I mean fair enough if you want to use one legendary then I think that's fine, but total n00bs that compose teams of 6 Legendaries with n00bish moves sets and think they're uber cool, I mean at least decent players take time in training other pokemon and using them, take my Espeon for example, not an uber pokemon, but I took time to train it, max out its stats and HP (Which took a while) and then I train some other pokemon but my friend who I will not name *coughkrytie-tvcough* just slaps together a team of ubers. Now lets have a look at the teams.

Friends Team:

Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Mewtwo
Raikou
Entei

My Team:

Espeon
Alakazam
Blastoise
Blissey
Kingdra
Slowbro

Fast forward three minutes.

Result:

Articuno= Owned by Espeon
Zapdos= Owned by Espeon
Moltres=Owned by Slowbro after it defeated Espeon
Mewtwo=Owned by Blastoise
Raikou= Owned by Blissey
Entei= Owned by Kingdra

Team Analyse:

Key:

O = Owned
S = Survived

Friends Team:

Articuno O
Zapdos O
Moltres O
Mewtwo O
Raikou O
Entei O

My Team:

Espeon O
Alakazam S
Blastoise S
Blissey S
Kingdra S
Slowbro S

I rest my case, any Legendary team can be owned by the right pokemon.

Author:  DeathEmpr [ Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:31 pm ]
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But wait, u said ur friend slapped toghether that team right? So basically they didn't train like you did right? Now say if they did Ev training and all that good stuff and Max their stats, then would we call it a battle? I'm just saying you trained ur Pokemon, but they slapped toghether, now if they did everything u did with ur pokemon, would the battle be one sided? Who knows, but i tell u this, it wouldn't be a walk in the park.

Author:  2x4b [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:09 am ]
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They were well trained, but they were still easy to beat, all he did was all out attack, I prefer to go with mainly Defense strategy with a bit of attacking.

Author:  Cal [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:14 am ]
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kryten2x4b wrote:
They were well trained, but they were still easy to beat, all he did was all out attack, I prefer to go with mainly Defense strategy with a bit of attacking.


I think I know who your friend is...
what do you mean by defending? do you mean you used like Toxic, Recover, Thunder Wave etc., or using stuff similar to Cosmic Power?

Author:  Philip [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:38 am ]
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i hate legendaries

Author:  Rhapsody [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:54 am ]
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I dont honestly mind legendaries, I hate the people who say, "I HAVE 6 UBERS I AM TEH SHIZ NOBODY CAN BEAT ME LOLZ"...and then when you beat them, "LOL I WAS GOING EASY ON U, I WOULDVE PWNED U!!!!oneone!1"
:roll: Some people are like that.

-Gardevoir~

Author:  Mutant_Mewtwo [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:03 am ]
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Gardevoir, you just perfectly described what my friends do :lol:

I don't mind Legendaries at all, the can all be beaten. I mean i wiped out my friends Uber Team with my Umbreon and Claydol. And i will almost always have a Legendary in my team aswell, Mewtwo or Latios.

It's not the Legendaries that annoy me it's the people that think they are awesome and unbeatable when they use them

Author:  2x4b [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:32 am ]
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Cal wrote:
kryten2x4b wrote:
They were well trained, but they were still easy to beat, all he did was all out attack, I prefer to go with mainly Defense strategy with a bit of attacking.


I think I know who your friend is...
what do you mean by defending? do you mean you used like Toxic, Recover, Thunder Wave etc., or using stuff similar to Cosmic Power?


Oh do you now... PM me and tell me who you think it is :wink:

But I mainly use things like Toxic, Recover etc but still things like Cosmic Power I use too, plus with a high defense, spec defense and HP stat they're really annoying... take my Blissey for example:

HP: 620
Def: 150
Spec Def: 252
Moves:
Softboiled
Egg Bomb
Thunder
Return

Now my Defense Deoxys:

HP: 259
Def: 361
Spec Def: 315
Moves:
Thunder
Psycho Boost
Psychic
Recover

Now imagine those in a battle, just trying to whittle down the HP but they're attacking while you do it and if your pokemon has low HP, well god help you.

Author:  Rhapsody [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:52 pm ]
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Yeah, I use my Articuno sometimes, but never go overboard and say/do something I will regret. I think that most people respect 00bers, and those select few that worship them and abuse their power (wrongly) are unlucky fellas. Having a team of 6 00bers/legends doesnt really matter of you think you are teh shiz, for take this team:

{zapdos}
{moltres}
{lugia}
{ho-oh}
{rayquaza}
{articuno}
Well...Regirock/Golem/good Rock type+Rock Slide+STAB=pwnage. OMG. You beat 6 legends with one/none *gasp*
Counting as half of them have a 4x Rock weakness....although I honeslty dont know who would use 6 Flyings on thier team.

-Gardevoir~

Author:  DeathEmpr [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:58 pm ]
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kryten2x4b wrote:

But I mainly use things like Toxic, Recover etc but still things like Cosmic Power I use too, plus with a high defense, spec defense and HP stat they're really annoying... take my Blissey for example:

HP: 620
Def: 150
Spec Def: 252
Moves:
Softboiled
Egg Bomb
Thunder
Return

Now my Defense Deoxys:

HP: 259
Def: 361
Spec Def: 315
Moves:
Thunder
Psycho Boost
Psychic
Recover

Now imagine those in a battle, just trying to whittle down the HP but they're attacking while you do it and if your pokemon has low HP, well god help you.

A good offense is all you need to take care of ur pokemon
Blissey-Fighting w/really good atk stats, 1 dynamic punch....a lot of hp is gone and confused

Deoxys-Dark w/really good sp atk, 1 Crunch....a lot of hp is gone and may have a chance to decrease sp def...and dark is imune to psychic.

The only lame part is that u have Recovering moves so, that might get ppl, but eventually the other pokemon will take them out.


Gardevoir~ wrote:
Yeah, I use my Articuno sometimes, but never go overboard and say/do something I will regret. I think that most people respect 00bers, and those select few that worship them and abuse their power (wrongly) are unlucky fellas. Having a team of 6 00bers/legends doesnt really matter of you think you are teh shiz, for take this team:

{zapdos}
{moltres}
{lugia}
{ho-oh}
{rayquaza}
{articuno}
Well...Regirock/Golem/good Rock type+Rock Slide+STAB=pwnage. OMG. You beat 6 legends with one/none *gasp*
Counting as half of them have a 4x Rock weakness....although I honeslty dont know who would use 6 Flyings on thier team.

-Gardevoir~

I don't know Gardevoir, u have speed on ur side and we know most rock pokemon has slow speed, except if u use a good dragon who know rock slide,*cough*{salamence}*cough, that can take care of the team.

Author:  Cal [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:58 pm ]
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Gardevoir~ wrote:
Yeah, I use my Articuno sometimes, but never go overboard and say/do something I will regret. I think that most people respect 00bers, and those select few that worship them and abuse their power (wrongly) are unlucky fellas. Having a team of 6 00bers/legends doesnt really matter of you think you are teh shiz, for take this team:

{zapdos}
{moltres}
{lugia}
{ho-oh}
{rayquaza}
{articuno}
Well...Regirock/Golem/good Rock type+Rock Slide+STAB=pwnage. OMG. You beat 6 legends with one/none *gasp*
Counting as half of them have a 4x Rock weakness....although I honeslty dont know who would use 6 Flyings on thier team.

-Gardevoir~


golem would get pwned in a matter of seconds.

{articuno}= much faster
{ho-oh}=much faster (ho-oh will probably use earthquake)
{rayquaza}=much faster and can surf/ice beam/earthquake)

regirock has a chance though, as it'll probably survive most hits.

Author:  Rhapsody [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:09 pm ]
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I was just naming them from the top of my head, I meant a good Rock type in general. Or one with good Attack, like the mentioned Salamence.
My point was that every Pokemon has a counter.
-Gardevoir~

Author:  Tesseract [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:26 pm ]
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i don't know about you, b twhen i first came on netbattle, i started out with an all dragon type team... with rayquaza and the lati@s as my starters.... and i lost. Rayquaza is my fave pokemon, so I try and use him whenever i get the chance, and i can't use him anywhere! and if i wee any good at servers, i would mak eone.... but still.... having ubers in your team doesn't mean your going to win all the time, quite the contrary.....

Author:  DeathEmpr [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:37 pm ]
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Yes, every pokemon do have counters..

Author:  Pichu_Bro [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:51 pm ]
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I dislike people who use legendaries. I love the normal type of pokemon that are chillin in the long grass not who are in a secret hut village. I hate the fact that people use legendaries and win. It just isnt fair and especially those 6 Legendary Teams. AAHHH!! :shock:

Author:  Pichu_Bro [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:56 pm ]
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I dislike people who use legendaries. I love the normal type of pokemon that are chillin in the long grass not who are in a secret hut village. I hate the fact that people use legendaries and win. It just isnt fair and especially those 6 Legendary Teams. AAHHH!! :shock:

Author:  Cal [ Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:32 pm ]
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DeathEmpr wrote:
Yes, every pokemon do have counters..


especially moltres and golem...and rhydon :roll:
why do people use legendaries anyway? (to win :roll:, I don't mean that way!) I actually pitty the "farts" who just slap together 00ber teams and go to a tourney/event etc.
my teams are a bit OU, I always use {salamence},{gardevoir} etc.
but at least I don't use rayquaza or any other of that jank (yes. I said groudon,mewtwo etc. are jank, what are you going to do about it? eh? :P )
I'm finished now.

lol, the *roll smiley* has froze up and it looks stupid! :lol:
just thought I'd let you know.

Author:  Gardevoir1313 [ Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:15 pm ]
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kryten2x4b wrote:
take my Blissey for example:

HP: 620
Def: 150
Spec Def: 252
Moves:
Softboiled
Egg Bomb
Thunder
Return


My Blaziken would do a nice number on that thing. Low defense, dude. ^_^

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