The problem is , nothing in the 5th gen ou carries herbivore . making pervisity somewhat pro .

its speed and atk / spatk is strong enough to nearly ko everything along with that +6 if it succeeds. ice beam from a spattking kingdra only does about 60%,and a leafblade from it can already nearly KO a kingdra,so with that leaf storm boost , any spatk could probably knock out nearly any ou. including chomps and mences.

[color=olive]The only thing I really personally see in your argument that lacks merit is that you said that nothing ou in 5th gen carries herbivore, said it had decent stats but only compared it to 4th gen Pok

take note , i chose those 4th gen because their in 5th gen ou AND most in that tier do not have much resistance to grass and a +3 cune and blissey cant wall it as well.those 2 are probably the strongest spatk walls. do u really expect me to compare it against things like burungeru,ononokusu?since your pointing out that i dont take in 5th gen,then i'll do so and compare against those in 5th gen ou. this is only if ur battling in a strict OU where UU and NU arent allowed.

Voltolos , possible to withstand a +2 , but a +4 or +6 will KO imediately but if its max spd EV and can pull off a powerful air attack which is physical (AA) and Voltolos is mainly a SpA attacker , a AA wouldnt KO a jarooda and next turn would spell death.

Burungeru , no talk over here. 2x unresisted +2/4/6 = death.

Doryuuzu , again , no talk.

Elfoon could resist , but it normally doesnt pack a powerful attack move , unless a Hurricane hits , probably useless as well.

Genosektu , another possibility with its learning of Flamethrower , but if strikes last / hit with a +6 chances are possible , but low.

Jarooda , jarooda vs jarooda , possible. but it depends on who got the +6 and carry a HP fire / ice and strikes first.

Kerudio , no talk.

Kojondo , again , possible , but rare . But chanceless if +6ed

Natorrei , possible , but doesnt pack a fire / flying / ice so walling is possible for a amount of time.

Ononoksu , maybe. Havent really tried but low chance if +6

Landlos , good chance but gg if +6

Rankurusuu , probably the highest chance of walling since it learns psychic and has CMR. good for stalling for LS to die down on PP but if crit-ed then cya.

Roopushin , no talk , mach punch can probably KO if u somehow damaged it badly previously

Sazandora , another good competitor , but not sure how it fares against +6.

Shandera , if scarfed and outspeeds Jarooda , this is a 100% win counter due to high SpA and learns powerful Fire moves.

Ulgamoth , good chance due to 1/4 resisted and decent SpD.

Zoroaaku , fragile .

Zuruzurukin , decent enough , but unresisted and can die if +4.

Of course, ur best bet if you dont have a decent counter is stall with Rankurusu and wait for it to run out of PP b4 switching to roar or smth. But as u said,its bound to change. Hopefully it does too. Lets put an end to this silly arguement now shall we? This IS after all a trainers thread and not a debating thread

@all: what are you talking about?

I name my region-Inphero
After I make all my Gym & Elites:

-Elite4&Champion Page 3
-Chief Page 6
-Nell Page 9
-Herman Page 9
-Frossla Page 10
-Aspore Page 10
-Electiano Page 11
-Medhina Page 12
-Shayla Page 13
-Astro Page 13
-Principal Randie Page 11
-Kevin Page 12 (Uncompleted)


8th Gym of INPHERO Region
Lawjudg City
Leader: Astro, The Mighty Metal Judge
Gender: Male
Type: Steel
Badge: Judge Badge
Poke 4800, Allow to use Waterfall, All Pokemon will obey.
TM: Flash Cannon

Trainer=

Lawyer Marco
Challenge1: Hello, can you help me? Please talk to that Suspect in this room and ask him to surrender in this trial?
Challenge2: Ah, thanks. But, you must battle me!
Win: Yes, I win!
Lose: Uhh, I win in this trials, but I lose in battle...
L39 (Earthquake, Flash Cannon, Iron Head, Stone-Edge)
L40 (Flash Cannon, Gyro Ball, Psychic, Extrasensory)

Suspect Aldo
Challenge1: Huh, I'm almost lose in this trial...(Can you help me?)
Challenge2: Uh, you don't want help me? Gr.... Okay, I'll beat you soon!
Win: Ha! Even in trial I lose, I still win in battle!
Lose: Huft, I lose, again and again...
L38 (Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Crunch, Sucker Punch)
L40 (Mirror Shot, Magnet Bomb, Charge Beam, Flash Cannon)

Policeman Tendo
Challenge1:Ah, can you beat the man that sitting at the chair? Let me know if you beat him! (Is it easy?)
Challenge2: Wah, you're good, now beat me!
Win: I can beat you... I should not need your help to beat that man.
Lose: I lose? But, I'm now feel better becuase you've defeated him.
L40 (X-Scissor, Steel Wing, Flash Cannon, Bug Buzz)

Suspect Tom
Challenge1: Mmm.. I like this comfort chair..
Challenge2: Ah, that Police asked you to beat me? Okay, let's battle
Win: I win, so I can sit in this chair..
Lose: I lose... so I'll stop sitting on this chair
L40 (Earthquake, Flash Cannon, Roar, Gyro Ball)

Detective Dino
Challenge1: Answer this question, then beat me, "In an island, lived 2 clans, Clan Angel (honest and helpful people) and Clan Devil (deceiver and liars). One day, A traveler visited that island but get lost there, asking the way to the two people there. 1st Person say 2nd Person came from Clan Angel. 2nd Person said that He and 1st person came from different clans, So, which one that come from the Clan Devil?"
Challenge2: You're right.... test 2, battle and defeat me!"
Win: I win this battle, try again, kid
Lose: I lose?? Then, you can battle with Astro now..
L41 (Metal Claw, Flash Cannon, Bullet Punch, Psychic)
L41 (Close COmbat, Flash Cannon, Aura Sphere, Stone-Edge)

Lawyer Tandy
Challenge: You want to battle with Astro? You can, but if you defeat me!
Win: Ahaha... I win, you can't battle with Leader before defeat me.
Lose: Uh... I lose, now you can battle with Astro.
L41 (Metal Claw, Flash Cannon, Iron Head, Mud Slap)
L42 (Steel Wing, Flash Cannon, Aerial Ace, Fly)

GYM LEADER(Double-Battle)
Challenge: So, you can beat all trainers in my Gym. And, now you can battle with me. Prepare to receive my mighty justice!!!
Win: My mighty Justice is the best. You need more training to defeat me.
Lose: You're win! Congratulation, with my badge, now you can participate in Pokemon League! Take my Justice Badge!!
After Battle: This badge allowed you to use Waterfall, plus, all your Pokemon will obey you at any levels. I also give you this TM Flash Cannon, this move may decrease your opponent's Sp.Def at battle. Good luck at the League!
Last Pokemon: Urghh... My last Pokemon, You may not lose in this battle! The Power of Truth!
Team:
L46 -- With Bronzong
Clear Body/Chesto Berry
Rest
Extrasensory
Flash Cannon
Meteor Mash

L46 -- With Metang
Heatproof/Metal Coat
Extrasensory
Future Sight
Gyro Ball
Flash Cannon
------------------------------
L47 M With Aggron
Swarm/SilverPowder
Flash Cannon
Steel Wing
Iron Head
X-Scissor

L48 M With Scizor
Rock Head/Steel Jewel
Metal Burst
Flash Cannon
Iron Tail
Head Smash

Nothing much , just talking bout how Jarooda is nearly impossible to counter once its +6ed.

Name : Kazari

Gender : ?

Element :
THUNDER / NORMAL

Description :
One hecka a lazy dude , he never wants to battle but will if he has too. His a womanizer and often battles at full strength to impress the girls. He often trains his Pokemon to be quick and strong , but lacking of defenses. He declined to be in the E4 due to the fact he'd have to battle everytime a trainer comes. But when he saw Mezul , he immediately agreed. He is a bully towards Gamel , along with Uva , but when Mezul appears he stops immediately instead of continuing unlike Uva.

Biography :
Nothing much is known about Kazari as his a carefree trainer and drops by each region for a short period of time before he leaves again. He is believed to have lost his childhood memories as he himself doesn't know where he came from.

Pokemon :


@Anger Point | Level 65
Horn Attack , Zenn Headbutt , Take Down , Giga Impact

@Intimidate | Level 66
Thunder Fang , Double Team , Iron Tail , Ice Fang

@Immunity | Level 63 @Sitrus Berry
Rest , Ice Punch , Body Slam , Hyper Beam

@Static | Level 68
Thunder , Volt Tackle , Iron Tail , Double Team

@Soundproof | Level 66
Thunder , Double Team , Explosion

@Motor Drive | Level 76 @Sitrus Berry
Fire Punch , Iron Tail , Ice Punch , Thunder

Oh, I just realize, some of my E4 and Gym type is same, becuase actually the E4 is from other region..... I'll post the Real E4 tomorrow or th day after tomorrow....

I also have edit my rival on the region, but haven't complete.

Just some ol crazy thang...


From what you said, even +4 is nearly impossible but I think I will stop there for reasons mentioned in previous posts but I will end it on this next sentence. As with every Gen of Pokemon, there will always be a great Imbalance even with people splitting the pokemon into tiers & creating special clauses so please be aware of that when Gen V comes people, alright?...

@ Infernape77 = Your Steel Gym is awesome & I like the Gym Leader, Astro : The Mighty Metal Judge mainly cause of his Justice & cause he puts you in a Double Battle which I think needs to be at least 1 of in each new Pokemon RPG's Gym Rooster for now on...

@ zPIRATED = Kazari is a very interesting Trainer & as such has risen a great question, what region is Cynthia from for that matter as in Platinum in my Ville I believe it's called I learned that she was from a different region which she did not name...if she is from the Isshu Region or not is something I do not want spoiled just to clarify...

@ Kaori Sakura = I absolutely love your signature you have right now, she looks gorgeous & the trainer card in general looks excellent though a bit big but no matter to me...

About Me = I will have all 3 of my trainers up based on which 1 I get done first all by the end of today hopefully & It's nice to know that the several people that visit this thread are regulars here, lol...

#1 - Marcus

#2- Simon
fire punch-ice punch-thunder punch-sky uppercut
fire fang-ice fang-thunder fang-ice fang

#3- Alexis
thunderpunch-ice punch-earthquake-cross chop
hyper beam-fire blast-psychic-solar beam
x scisor-air slash-night slash-iron head
dragon dance-superpower-aqua tail-crunch
psychic-focus blast-energy ball-calm mind
leaf blade-psycho cut-night slash-bulk up
#4 - Wilson
night shade-blizzard-focus blast-





Pre Champion- Terry




aqua ring-facade-surf-sleep talk
sky uppercut-
Post Champion- Terry
@cutsap berry Giga Impact-Zen Headbutt-Iron Head-Super Power (It was an event.)
Roar of Time-Spacial Rend-Shadow Force-Judgement (no, I'm not insane. this was an event.)
Fissure-DynamicPunch-Earthquake-Solar Beam
Hypnosis -Nightmare-Dream Eater-Psychic
Hypnosis-Nightmare-Dream Eater-Night Shade
Dark Void-Nightmare-Dream Eater-Focus Punch
(meant to give the player a SERIOUS run for their money. has his flaws, however.)

They have flaws. They're not supposed to be nearly indestructable. BUT, some are very hard.
(will edit for the rest later. To lazy to finish now.)

She also makes a debut and battles you in BW but not in the anime at the moment. I believe shes from the Isshu Region as well but well , she could jolly well be from the region after Isshu

I knew this already but she is featured in every game since she debuted that's part of the main game series, DPPtHGSS & also makes a more respectable appearance in BW, just to clarify, I am not complaining about that at all...

Quit it . Lawence , that trainer team sucks so badly I could pwn it with my eyes closed...

- Exits Psypoke forums and turns on game device -

EDIT : bout the cynthia thing , i recently traded an arceus into my ss and i realised that cynthia's house is located on top of sinjoh , near the ruins. so i personally believe shes from johto

I've decided to become a Nazi grammar police member just for this thread: vulgar implies an * inappropriate* word such as crass language or a sexual harassment.

Not vulgar. Actually I'm not sure why that bugged me at all... Huh.... Just had to say it! xD

Sorry if it sounded insulting , but then again , maybe not everyone could tell the joke in it.

No offence to anyone who took that comment seriously and found it very insulting. Especially Lawence.

Wow, alright, I guess I have to intervene & respond to everything again...


I understood that this was a joke of sorts as "that trainer team" is an ingame 1 & meant to maintain a sort of easiness for the younger audiences, I admit it is a bit easy but that is what's to be expected of such a random team really...


I wasn't fortunate enough to obtain an Arceus from the limited places to get it from during that even so Sinjoh Ruins is somewhere I haven't even seen so thanks for mentioning this as it might mean she actually is from Johto, if Sinjoh Ruins is actually a part of Johto that is...


I see where your coming from but I actually took it very well as I always do, I found it only a tiny bit vulgar & not really degrading at all...


That's all nice & dandy but do contribute either some criticism or feedback or a trainer along with that please as things need to stay on topic alright, actually a grammer police would be fine as long as that person isn't too strict about it, I hate it when they are & besides also, I am used to what is essentially KingErick so...


None taken though your joke could have used a little better execution I believe, regardess, I knew it was as I gotten used to the way you talk so I couldn't really be insulted in that case alone lol...


Just disregard or ignore him, it's wasn't really meant to be taken that literally...


Same here & I am learning more about this thread's participates by the day I feel...

Now again I say this, let's get back on topic people, though I already know that this has been already done by now, lol...

That wasn't about the in-game or not thing . It was a compliment disguised as an insult . I meant to say it seemed great so I wanted to try it in the competitive stream.

You know , like those people who insult other's works in a competition but ends up copying their idea? etc.

Nonetheless , glad you dont take offence

Oh, well then in that case, copy away my friend, I do know people like that lol...

Unique Trainer: Kaorin's Younger Brother

Name: Ashton
Gender: ?[color=lightgreen]
Region: Fudou
Background: Ashton is Kaorin's younger brother and is five years younger than her, being twelve and is much closer in age to the main character, you. (This being for all the games released in America thus far) He is born in Lynnal like his older sister and acquired his first Pok

Unique Trainer: Kaorin's Younger Sister

Name: Alicia
Gender: ?[color=violet]
Region: Fudou
Background: Alicia is Kaorin's younger sister and is four years younger than her, being thirteen and is the closest in age to the main character, you. (This being in comparison to all the games thus far released in North America) She is born in Lynnal like her older sister and acquired her first Pok

@ Kaori Sakura = It's been fixed, thank you...

& Kaorin's Younger Sister has some awesome pokemon movesets going on there, I like'em...