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 Who is the most powerful Elite 4 in all pokemon versions? 
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Lorelei because all her pokemon are high in Special Defense which makes her hard to defeat even with electric type pokemon.


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I had a lot of trouble with Bertha from Sinnoh (darn Quagsire with Double Team...). But the final of the Sinnoh Elite 4, Lucian, was simple to beat.

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Hyperbole wrote:
I had a lot of trouble with Bertha from Sinnoh (darn Quagsire with Double Team...). But the final of the Sinnoh Elite 4, Lucian, was simple to beat.


exact opposite for me lucian is evil because even night slash cant kill his whole team bertha is to east for the fact that any grass move would kill him (leaf blade whole team dead only damage sandstorm)


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lance in the first game simply because i didn't have an ice attack or dragon...

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Gary in yellow, he's so hard, he makes people want to cut themselves.


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I Don't think Gary is One of the Elite 4.....but the hardest was Lance.....after fighting 3 rounds without a pokemon center was almoast impossible for me....I had to cheat :cry:

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You thought Lance was hard? That's pretty sad. T-Bolt on Gyarados and Ice Beam on everything else. Simple as pie.
Lucian's Bronzong and Alakazam are both so freaking annoying, as is Gary's Jolteon. Even my Alakazam had trouble with this beast. But I won eventually against both. (Oh, and Cynthia gives me trouble too, not to mention...Wallace in Emerald! Gah! Most annoying trainer ever!)

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I think Lance is easy. I only used articuno and zapdos to KO him. His dragon types are very weak against ice.


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I would think Lucian is probably the hardest because of that stupid Bronzong. Lance and Gary ae easy once you have found thier pokemon's weaknesses. I'll also agree with DNA, Wallace was annoying but I took him out eventully.

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Yeah I think the Hardest was lucas.....took me an Hour and 11 retries... :oops:


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Lets see now...

Firered

Lorelei: OHKO'd all her Pokemon
Agatha: OHKO'd all her Pokemon
Bruno: OHKO'd all his Pokemon
Lance: OHKO'd all his Pokemon
Idiot (rival): OHKO'd all his Pokemon except for Gyarados, which took two Ice Beams.

Overall in Kanto: Idiot (rival)

Emerald

Sydney: OHKO'd all his Pokemon
Phoebe: OHKO'd all her Pokemon
Glacia: OHKO'd all her Pokemon
Drake: OHKO'd all his Pokemon
Wallace: OHKO'd all his Pokemon

Overall in Hoenn: Hard to say

Diamond

Aaron: OHKO'd all his Pokemon
Bertha: OHKO'd all her Pokemon
Flint: OHKO'D all his Pokemon, except for Infernape, which took two Thunderbolts, and Drifblim, which took two Thunderbolts again
Lucian: OHKO'd all his Pokemon, except for Bronzong, which took two Flamethrowers

As for Champion Cynthia...

Spiritomb: Three Flamethrowers from Infernape
Gastrodon: Two Close Combats from Infernape
Lucario: OHKO'd by Dialga's Flamethrower
Roserade: OHKO'd by Infernape's Flamethrower
Milotic: Three Close Combats from Infernape and One Ancientpower from Dialga
Garchomp: Two Close Combats from Infernape, One finishing-off Roar of Time from Dialga, five Revives from my bag, two Max Revives from my bag, three Max Elixirs from my bag and two Elixirs from my bag

Overall in Sinnoh: Cynthia (duh)

Overall out of all: Cynthia

P.S. My Diamond team was stronger than my Emerald and Firered team, by FAR.

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Gary's constant switches were a bit annoying. Wallace wasn't easy at all, even though he had a mono team, his Pokemon had the most annoying moves. Just when Wailord was about to go down, it used-Double-Edge, than Full Restored.
Cynthia's Garchomp was probably the hardest, though she was easy. The Garchomp just needed a bit of attack reduction though.
Wallace is my hate. I needed Rayquaza just to beat him.

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Wallace was the hardest for me too. I tried over and over again to beat him but couldn't. Then I taught my Manetric Thunder just to try it out and it helped to. I couldn't beat the Ludicolo though and I had to teach someone Fly. I can't think of who.....

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Gary's constant switches were a bit annoying. Wallace wasn't easy at all, even though he had a mono team, his Pokemon had the most annoying moves. Just when Wailord was about to go down, it used-Double-Edge, than Full Restored.
Cynthia's Garchomp was probably the hardest, though she was easy. The Garchomp just needed a bit of attack reduction though.
Wallace is my hate. I needed Rayquaza just to beat him.

Same here. Milotic was practically impossible, as the only ones strong enough to kill it (Sceptile and Rayquaza) get murdered by Ice. I am so thankful I got Rayquaza first. Now all the time in RSE I use him to take down Glacia. (Yeah, you heard me right.) Fly with Rayquaza was the only way to take down Ludicolo, and his team is so annoying they have weaknesses almost impossible to exploit. They don't all have one common weakness.

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I would say Cynthia; each of her pokes were hard to OHKO.


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I find all of the E4s in all of the games easy to beat, but of the entire lot.... only one Pokémon annoys me.

Cynthia's blasted Milotic.

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YELLOW
Lorelei: OHKO'd all except Jynx (2HKO by Raichu's T-bolt)
Bruno: OHKO'd all
Agatha: OHKO'd all
Lance: OHKO'd all except Gyarados (3HKO'd by 1 of Hitmonlee's Hi Jump Kicks and 2 of Butterfree's Psychic)

Champion Blue:
Sandslash: 2HKO'd by Butterfree's Psychic
Alakazam: OHKO'd by Dugtrio's Slash
Exeggutor: OHKO'd by Dugtrio's Slash
Cloyster: Taken down with Gengar's Hypnosis, Nightmare, and Dream Eater combo
Ninetales: OHKO'd by Seadra's Surf
Jolteon: OHKO'd by Dugtrio's Earthquake

Hardest of Yellow: Champion Blue


CRYSTAL
Will: OHKO'd all
Koga: OHKO'd all
Bruno: OHKO'd all
Karen:
4HKO'd Umbreon by 2 each of Crobat's Bite and Sludge Bomb (I didn't have a clue what dark was weak to)
OHKO'd Vileplume by Feraligatr's Ice Beam
2HKO'd Gengar by Crobat's Bite
OHKO'd Murkrow by Feraligatr's Ice Beam
3HKO'd Houndoom by Togetic's Metronome -lol- It used Icy Wind, Giga Drain, and Aeroblast o.0

Champion Lance: OHKO'd all

Hardest of Crystal: Karen

EMERALD
OHKO'd all, so I wont bother listing

PEARL
Aaron: OHKO'd all with Stealth Rock support
Bertha: OHKO'd all except Sudowoodo (3HKO by Spiritomb's Hypnosis/Dream Eater combo)
Flint: OHKO'd all with Stealth Rock support
Lucian: OHKO'd all except Medicham (2HKO'd by Crobat's Wing Attack) and Bronzong (3HKO by Infernape's Flamethrower - I swear it must be a heatproofer, the thing just sucks up fire attacks)

Champion Cynthia:
Spiritomb: 2OHKO'd by Machamp's Foresight/Dynamic Punch combo
Gastrodon: 4HKO'd by Crobat's Wing Attack
Roserade: 3HKO'd by Crobat's Wing Attack
Lucario: OHKO'd by Infernape's Flamethrower
Milotic: Something around a 30HKO because on the first move, I accidentally used Hypnosis instead of Ominous Wind and activated Marvel Scale, and Cynthia kept using Full Restores
Garchomp: Taken out with PIES (Phanphy version of FEAR - Phanphy Ice shard Endeavor Sash - I coined the name :p)

Hardest of Pearl: Cynthia

Hardest Overall: Karen, since the only thing that made Cynthia tougher for me was me hitting the wrong button

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Pretty good, EP, although I must note:
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Cloyster: Taken down with Gengar's Hypnosis, Nightmare, and Dream Eater combo

Nightmare in Yellow?
Milotic was like a 30HKO too for me. Empoleon's Metal Claw, and stall it to death. I wasted at least 7 Hyper Potions, but 3 attack boosts from the claw left her last fighter, Roserade, way open for punishment.

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The old grandma (forgot her name), in DP. I'm talking about her Quagsire, her Wiscash and her Hippowdon.


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Technically, I am. I did prove I'm stronger than all the Elite 4, so wouldn't that make me the most difficult to beat? I was crowned the champion, however I never took my rightful place in the champion's room, so of course I never had any challengers. Darn those Elite 4...

Of course I doubt anyone posting here would be able to say the same... but where does it say it has to be someone that everyone else faced?*

*liable to change due to the topic creator may be a spiteful jerk who will change the title just to nullify the previous statement's worth

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Bertha.In Sinnoh


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Firered & LeefGreen:

Lorieli: easy
Bruno: easy as breathing
Agatha: moderate
Lance: even easier then breathing

Kanto: Agatha

Gold & Silver:

(don't remember his name): Easy as heck
Koga: Easy
(don't remeber his name): Easy
Lance: moderate

Jhoto: Lance

Ruby, saphire, & Emerald:

Don't remeber any of their names..... :shock: : Easy
Wallace: Easy

Hoen: No One

Diamond & Pearl :

Don't have it yet :shock: :cry:

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Lorelei of Leaf Green / Fire Red. Not only were all her pokemon high in sp. def, but they were all special attackers (since all water/ice/psychic was special then), so getting a rock type early in the game and training it up (onix, golem, even Rhydon) didn't help you defeat her Ice. Even the electric types don't do much damage to her strong pokemon, and the fighting types have little special defense (My Primeape can barely beat the Dewgong)
Not to mention how you are forced to have at least one flying type on your team...

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I'll have to agree that Lorelei of the E4 was the hardest...my dragonites were near useless... :lol:


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Lucian definitley his bronzong was so hard bronzongs only effective weakness is fire :P

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