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I have chains of 56,49 and 46 of shinx,but never found
one shiny...
And ingame your rival say that bush that have shiny pokes sparkles...
Somebody know how this shiny grass look like???
I have never saw nothing like this...

Video,Pictures,whatever...

Thanks in advance.

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Shinies are bastardingly hard to get, even with Pokeradar.

Look at the Shiny section on the main website - you'll see they are very hard to find, despite pokeradar.

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Whoa dude...56. :shock:
Anyway I don't have a pic, but I've tried to convince my best friend...
<center>THERE'S NO SUCH SHINY HUNTING!</center>
I don't mean to nag...but that's how it is...the sparkle may be a little like a 4-sided diamond, if ya know what I mean. :) But they for sure aren't those couple lines.

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Dawn/Lucas: "Could that be true?" NOOOOOOO! :evil: :lol:

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you have a 1/8192 chance of running into one
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lol, chaining shinies can get ridiculously frustrating.
But shiny patches should look a 'little' bit more distinct than the normal white rustle you when you chain. If you're observant enough, you should be able to differentiate from the normal rustles, but you'd have to be alert to notice this.

I can't remember clearly, but I think the colour seemed abit different in a 'sparkly' sort of sense. Also, it does the sparkle twice, this sparkle might be abit slower than the usual white rustles you see.
I should also mention it's relatively brighter than usual as well.


Aside... if you're looking for shinx, how bout use a pokemon with static? According to the Psydex locations, the best place seems to be route 202.
These won't help with increasing chances, but at least it'd probably keep your chaining going for abit more ^^;;


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Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:33 am
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*sigh*

Shiny hunting does NOT increase the chance of a pokémon being shiny... so chain 8192 if you want... it won't guarantee you a shiny. What it does do is increase the chance of SEEING a shiny... because (apparently) they sparkle in a unique way... therefore while chaining, you are more likely to see this (as you see 5-10 at a time... rather than 1)

The only benefit of chaining is that it is usually quicker to OHKO your opponent than charging up the Pokéradar each time...

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Ops, did I imply it increases chances?
I meant that increasing your encounter rate with the same pokemon helps in reducing the chances for your chain to break..

Anyways, the probably should be 1/8192 for each pokemon you encounter, and the maximum number of rustles you can get is 4 at a time.

HOWEVER, chaining DOES give you somewhat control over what you'd like to chain since you'll only be focusing on one species (Provided your chain doesn't break), along with upto 4 patches to choose from (Which in turn speeds up the hunting process).
Of course, if the game's nasty, you may never find your shiny :

I should know this, since I've been able to pull it off a number of times already :S


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The chaining shinies theory is: Every time you chain once, the odds of getting a shiny are increased by half.

Example: First of the chain = 1/8120. Second of the Chain = 1/4060. Third of the chain = 1/2030. Fourth of the chain = 1015. Fifth of the chain = 1/507.5. Sixth of the chain = 1/253.75.

Et Cetera, Et Cetera.

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Lots of vids on Youtube. This ones very short and to the point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgXkRZuBo3A
Nice to know what it looks like just in case.


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ItIsTuesday wrote:
The chaining shinies theory is: Every time you chain once, the odds of getting a shiny are increased by half.

Example: First of the chain = 1/8120. Second of the Chain = 1/4060. Third of the chain = 1/2030. Fourth of the chain = 1015. Fifth of the chain = 1/507.5. Sixth of the chain = 1/253.75.

Et Cetera, Et Cetera.


This is called Gambler's Fallacy. EDIT: Better Link.

But with pokeradar, you see more than one spot of grass with a pokemon, so it shows you a 2-7(not sure whats max)/8120 chance of finding one each time.


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Woooooooooowwwww!
I was afraid i could't see the differnce
of the shiny bush but is really flash and stuff....

It works,i finnaly got my shiny shinx on a 12 Chain!!!
(Ironic)...
Image
it's yellow and stuff and she is a lv 42 Image now and she is somewhat
strong...
and i tried again on Image and got 4 Shiny...

The trick is to stop entering on the battles
And starting reseting the radar until you find shinies...
(About 44 or 58, i would say...)


Pokeradar shiny hunting works...
if you have patience...
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hey thats awesome!! im glad to see evidence from someone that it actually works. one of these days ill get around to trying it myself. i have a shiny shinx too - they are so cute :) :)

so, i just wanted to clarify the last thing you said. are you saying that you would use the radar, then run 50 steps and use it again, repeating this procedure, without entering battles?

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Cuddles wrote:


so, i just wanted to clarify the last thing you said. are you saying that you would use the radar, then run 50 steps and use it again, repeating this procedure, without entering battles?


That's exactly what he said, quicker than trying to continue the chain.

Gal wrote:
But with pokeradar, you see more than one spot of grass with a pokemon, so it shows you a 2-7(not sure whats max)/8120 chance of finding one each time.

That's right, so using the Pokeradar does give better chances of finding a shiny than battling normally..


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Gal wrote:
ItIsTuesday wrote:
The chaining shinies theory is: Every time you chain once, the odds of getting a shiny are increased by half.

Example: First of the chain = 1/8120. Second of the Chain = 1/4060. Third of the chain = 1/2030. Fourth of the chain = 1015. Fifth of the chain = 1/507.5. Sixth of the chain = 1/253.75.

Et Cetera, Et Cetera.


This is called Gambler's Fallacy. EDIT: Better Link.

But with pokeradar, you see more than one spot of grass with a pokemon, so it shows you a 2-7(not sure whats max)/8120 chance of finding one each time.


If you take the average number of patches as 5, then the chance of finding a shiny in one go is 1/1624

This means that the chance of a shiny after 10 battles (chaining) is 1/162, compared with 1/812 for normal battling.

HOWEVER!!!!

As Gal correctly pointed out, this does not mean that the 10th battle has a 1/812 chance of being shiny (if the first nine are not)!!!

This simply highlights the benefits of chaining - that after ten battles you are a lot more likely to have seen one.

N.B. This simplification actually breaks down after a while... for example after 8120 battles, this simple way will tell you that you are guarunteed a shiny... clearly not true! In actual fact the true formula is:

1 - (8119/8120) to the power of P x E

Where P is the number of pokémon seen per encounter, and E is the number of encounters.

Random trivia! After 8120 battles the chance of a shiny is actually less than two thirds!

More random trivia! To get a 50% chance of finding a shiny you need to do 5629 battles! (Or ~1125 with pokéradar chain)

Happy hunting! 1125 is still a lot of battles!

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In these three days i got some more shinies...
{cubone} x2 (both nature:careful) chain Number:50 and 55
{nosepass} x1 (nature:naive)chain number:25
{makuhita} x1 (nature:bold)chain number:9

Swarming pokemon make excellent chains...
I recomend it...
oh and take many(hundreds) max repels...

there some tips i found some places...
1)In this example down there,see the C on the middle as you.
And the numbers the steps away from you...

444444444
433333334
432111234
4321C1234
432111234
432222234
433333334
444444444

If C is you,4 steps is the biggest chance of raising your chain,and 1 step has the lesser chance.Ok nothing new, but...

444444444
4B3333334
432111234
A321C1234
432111234
432222234
433333334
444444444

From A to C we have 4 steps...(counting the A),
From B to C we have 5 steps,what logically would be "farthest"...
but that thought its wrong...
Only the biggest distance on one direction is used to
calculate the farthest one.
Ex:
4 steps left = 4 Steps
3 steps left + 2 steps up=3 Steps

I think that's correct ...
I got a 72 miltank chain with that ...
but no shinies though....

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So do pokeradar chains actually increase your chances of getting shinies or what...?

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CHJB wrote:
So do pokeradar chains actually increase your chances of getting shinies or what...?


No, example:

bushin wrote:
{cubone} x2 (both nature:careful) chain Number:50 and 55
{makuhita} x1 (nature:bold)chain number:9


High chains do not increase your chances of getting a shiny.
Since pokeradar allows you to see more than 1 spot of grass, using it increases it by knowing which grass will be shiny (the rainbow grass) so it wouldn't no longer 1/8120, but 2-6/8120 each time.

Obviously if your persistent and keep searching for one, you might eventually get one, but each time the grass shakes, it will always be 2-6/8120 chance of being shiny.

Like I said before:

Gal wrote:

This is called Gambler's Fallacy. EDIT: Better Link.

But with pokeradar, you see more than one spot of grass with a pokemon, so it shows you a 2-7(not sure whats max)/8120 chance of finding one each time.


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Gal wrote:
But with pokeradar, you see more than one spot of grass with a pokemon, so it shows you a 2-7(not sure whats max)/8120 chance of finding one each time.

Actually its slightly less than that ;)

Joey90 wrote:
1 - (8119/8120) to the power of P x E

Where P is the number of pokémon seen per encounter, and E is the number of encounters.


Nice and simple... but for low values it is roughly the same...

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Joey90 wrote:
Gal wrote:
But with pokeradar, you see more than one spot of grass with a pokemon, so it shows you a 2-7(not sure whats max)/8120 chance of finding one each time.

Actually its slightly less than that ;)

Joey90 wrote:
1 - (8119/8120) to the power of P x E

Where P is the number of pokémon seen per encounter, and E is the number of encounters.


Nice and simple... but for low values it is roughly the same...
or it could be just luck :P

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Just for posting that i find a LEGIT:

{skarmory} *shiny*
Impish
Sturdy
Lv 56-Location route 227(or 226,you know...that south to stark mountain...)
Chain number:41
Iv: Hp aprox=23 Def aprox=27

I LOVE THE POKÉRADAR!!!!!!!11111

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I've been shiny hunting for a {shinx} but every time I get a chain, some Bidoof and Starly break it. I've even had a few {sentret} brek my chain. It gets frustrating :evil:

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bushin I thank you for this, its genius!!! I've been hunting for about 2 days now.. and heres what I've gotten

{gible} on accident while doing bronzors XD, its adamant 30/26/23/13/3/31

{bronzor} x3 got an impish ^_^

{lickitung} x1 adamant

{magnemite} x2 ones a modest ^_^

unfortunately.. I've been searching for about another 9 hours with no success on skarmorys :mad: so.. i've been trying to breed one for my team.. although it will never match up to a shiny >.<

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chickenlick wrote:
bushin I thank you for this, its genius!!! I've been hunting for about 2 days now.. and heres what I've gotten

{gible} on accident while doing bronzors XD, its adamant 30/26/23/13/3/31

{bronzor} x3 got an impish ^_^

{lickitung} x1 adamant

{magnemite} x2 ones a modest ^_^

unfortunately.. I've been searching for about another 9 hours with no success on skarmorys :mad: so.. i've been trying to breed one for my team.. although it will never match up to a shiny >.<


:o
good to see i helped someone!
Actually i have a {skarmory} shiny impish 28/5/25/15/17/3...
it's really easy!
Just use a pokemon with the ability magnetic pull(or something like that)
and it will rain skarmories(or some others steel pokes) in the grass...
and about breed for shinies i have 2 boxes full of lvl 1 riolu adamant...
I guess it is not a good idea
on and other update all my shinies using pokeradar...
:lol:
{lickitung} x1
{magnemite} x1
{larvitar} x1
{phanpy} x1
{krabby} x1
{pidgey} x1
{skarmory} x1
{pichu} x1
{togepi} x1
{luxray} x1
{corsola} x1
{makuhita} x1
{nosepass} x1
{zubat} x1
{cubone} x2
{magby} x2
{starly} x3
{pachirisu} x4

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wow. Looks like getting shinies in the grass is alot easier. lol

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this post was n00bish...
SO NOW ITS GONE!
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