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VioletViolent
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:57 am Posts: 3
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Does togekiss' hustle ability increase the power of only moves based on his attack stat or special attack stat aswell? please reply if you know. thanks.
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:09 pm |
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The Jonatron
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm Posts: 253
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Questions Thread?
Hustle=BAD
poor attk (too poor for husle)
Sp attks would suffer.
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:12 pm |
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The Obsidian Wolf
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:03 am Posts: 1559 Location: Dragon's Den
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The Jonatron wrote: Questions Thread?
Hustle=BAD
poor attk (too poor for husle)
Sp attks would suffer.
Uh, what? Hustle isn't a nature you know, and doesn't increase one at the expense of another.
I think it increases both, but I'm not 100% sure. But still, Serene Grace is better, as it's easier to hax your way to victory with it (Air Slash, 40% Flinch or so...HAXXY)
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:02 pm |
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Taser
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 256 Location: On the back of a stampeding Tauros squealing, "WHEEE!"
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lolstop wrote: Hustle: Damage from physical attacks is 1.5 times, but average accuracy is only 80%.
You'd be surprising how bad 80% accuracy can be, too. Let's just say that Thunder's accuracy is only slightly lower. And if you're taking 80% of an accuracy rate that might not already be 100%...
Agreed, everyone would much rather rock a Serene Grace 'Kiss. 30% flinch chance, times two from Serene Grace is 60%.
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:29 pm |
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Case
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:38 pm Posts: 55 Location: Pennsylvania
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Taser wrote: lolstop wrote: Hustle: Damage from physical attacks is 1.5 times, but average accuracy is only 80%.
You'd be surprising how bad 80% accuracy can be, too. Let's just say that Thunder's accuracy is only slightly lower. And if you're taking 80% of an accuracy rate that might not already be 100%...
Agreed, everyone would much rather rock a Serene Grace 'Kiss. 30% flinch chance, times two from Serene Grace is 60%.
Does is explicitly state that it is 80% of the move's normal accuracy rate?
I was under the impression that it means the average accuracy of all physical moves is just 80%.
And even if that's not the case, I'm guessing this means you never use Stone Edge, Focus Blast on Alakazam, Cross Chop, or Sing on Blissey because they have 80% or less accuracy.
Also, Serene Grace Togekiss is cheap, incredibly cheap. Cheap as in more cheap then Double Team, which has many valid counters but is still banned.
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:06 pm |
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Taser
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 256 Location: On the back of a stampeding Tauros squealing, "WHEEE!"
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^I would think that's what it meant, since some moves obviously have less than 80% already and to raise some accuracy and lower others would be... odd. I could be wrong though.
Serene Grace Togekiss is nowhere near comparable to Double Team in "cheapness." Flinchax is strategy--just an incredibly annoying one. As long as you're prepared for it (which you should, it's quite a prominent pokemon in the metagame) all you have to do is simply outspeed it and kill.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:50 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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Yeah flinch grace is awesome...
I won a battle agaisnt a whole team with
{salamence}{kingdra} using a
@leftovers
serene grace
headbutt/Ancientpower/curse/thunderwave...(Emerald)
And is even more evil....
Great defences,Great Sp.Att...
And wide movepool
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:56 am |
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The Jonatron
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm Posts: 253
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Yeah, srry, sleepy again... I was assuming it didn't effect Special Moves and that the Acc problem did.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:39 pm |
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