(Example: Having the National Dex before completing the Elite Four)

Well except that you can get the national dex before beating the elite four

But I know what you mean, the game probably could detect specific cheats in other ways - e.g. if a particular RAM value is always set the same even when the game tells it not to be (i.e. how AR functions) then it could add a little flag, which while it may not affect you in-game, and wi-fi activities become banned.

Well, does this really mean that having a hacked pokemon will get you banned from Wifi? It looks like this set of rules will only affect people who have done the actual hacking will be affected by this. And I think that it will only affect people that have used certain codes, like making all your pokemon shiny.

Anyways, I beleive thaty Nintendo has every right to ban people from online play for hacking, its Nintendo's games, and Nintendo's internet service. They can set rules, and it isn't fair for hackers to have advantages over people who have enough time, dedication, and attention span to raise or find pokemon the right way.

Anyways, I beleive thaty Nintendo has every right to ban people from online play for hacking, its Nintendo's games, and Nintendo's internet service. They can set rules, and it isn't fair for hackers to have advantages over people who have enough time, dedication, and attention span to raise or find pokemon the right way.

looks like im done for, i got stuck on a part (i think it was the 7th gym) and i let my friend borrow it. next day i have a shiny arceus in my PC. i wonder if releasing it would work since then no harm would be done from it... cept for the dex data.

While that may be, there's a catch to that. Nintendo didn't specifically say that "all illegally modified pokemon are banned from online use." in it's orignal release date. And since we didn't sign any form or agreed to anything pertaining this, technically what their doing is wrong.

Maybe...Nintendo limiting AR users to staying offline with their pokemon is a way of banning their freedom of speech? Baiscally, Nintendo would be discriminating against cheaters, based solely on the products they purchaced for that purpose. I know if I were to buy a AR for the DS there's only one reason I'd use it (like someone else previously posted.) Is to use on pokemon. AR would lose a LOT of money if they were blocked out of pokemon use.

Before I drown us all in deep thought on a video game subject, I'm going to state one major fact: "Nintendo hates cheating devices." They want people to play their game and go advertise their merchandise (Via, New York Pokemon Events) to drill into the gamer's mind that if they want these uber rare pokemon, they HAVE to go to these events. And technically, if they're willing to travel that distance, they would also buy merchandise that they displayed at these events, being that they're held every once in a while.

AR breaks those limits, and provides people with an equal share to these rare pokemon. I wouldn't be surprised if they kept releasing patches well enough that basically any type of AR device is useless against their products.

While that may be, there's a catch to that. Nintendo didn't specifically say that "all illegally modified pokemon are banned from online use." in it's orignal release date. And since we didn't sign any form or agreed to anything pertaining this, technically what their doing is wrong.

Maybe...Nintendo limiting AR users to staying offline with their pokemon is a way of banning their freedom of speech? Baiscally, Nintendo would be discriminating against cheaters, based solely on the products they purchaced for that purpose.

While that may be, there's a catch to that. Nintendo didn't specifically say that "all illegally modified pokemon are banned from online use." in it's orignal release date. And since we didn't sign any form or agreed to anything pertaining this, technically what their doing is wrong.

Maybe...Nintendo limiting AR users to staying offline with their pokemon is a way of banning their freedom of speech? Baiscally, Nintendo would be discriminating against cheaters, based solely on the products they purchaced for that purpose. I know if I were to buy a AR for the DS there's only one reason I'd use it (like someone else previously posted.) Is to use on pokemon. AR would lose a LOT of money if they were blocked out of pokemon use.

Before I drown us all in deep thought on a video game subject, I'm going to state one major fact: "Nintendo hates cheating devices." They want people to play their game and go advertise their merchandise (Via, New York Pokemon Events) to drill into the gamer's mind that if they want these uber rare pokemon, they HAVE to go to these events. And technically, if they're willing to travel that distance, they would also buy merchandise that they displayed at these events, being that they're held every once in a while.

AR breaks those limits, and provides people with an equal share to these rare pokemon. I wouldn't be surprised if they kept releasing patches well enough that basically any type of AR device is useless against their products.