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R-cubed
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Joined: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:25 am Posts: 663 Location: Ximena's house
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Which one should i add to my team. My Garchomp has been really helpful to me but i was checking the base atk stat of and it said that it has a base atk stat of 140 which gives it 10 more than garchomp. However Garchomp is much faster than Rhyperior so which one should i add.
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Sun May 06, 2007 9:00 am |
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Xeeros
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:59 pm Posts: 125
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I'd take the Garchomp.
Speed is a big factor in a Phys. Sweeper, and i'd be willing to trade 10 extra attack for the extra speed that Garchomp has.
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Sun May 06, 2007 9:05 am |
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Heybunny
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 10:06 am Posts: 26 Location: England.
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I'm not sure if one could be considered better than the other, I think it's all about what you want. Rhyperior has an awesome optional nature however, that halves all super effective damage. I've always used a Rhydon though so you could call me biased.
As far as the speed thing goes, I think the Garchomp is getting a better deal. On the other hand, while I haven't seen Hard Rock in action yet, it'll probably make Rhyperior much more resiliant.
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Sun May 06, 2007 9:05 am |
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Centreri
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 103
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I'd go with Garchomp. It has good stats, and isn't as useless as Rhyperior against EQ, and very many people use that nowadays. Speed is always a plus, and dragonz are teh roxx0rz.
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Sun May 06, 2007 9:06 am |
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FaceLess
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Well, eg, if halved to normal damage is no big deal, especially with high def.
If that's what it's ability does. Then water and grass would still do double damge, and ice normal.
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Sun May 06, 2007 10:07 am |
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Silver
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:19 am Posts: 403 Location: Pallet Town (Kanto)
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Id go with Rhyperior
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Sun May 06, 2007 8:51 pm |
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Alkhazor
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:10 pm Posts: 421 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow.
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It would help if we knew what the rest of your team looked like.
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Sun May 06, 2007 11:28 pm |
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SilverK.P
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:28 pm Posts: 75
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Garchomp.
They are both weak against ice but at least garchomp does not die with an Earthquake.
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Mon May 07, 2007 7:28 am |
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Heybunny
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 10:06 am Posts: 26 Location: England.
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SilverK.P wrote: Garchomp.
They are both weak against ice but at least garchomp does not die with an Earthquake.
Actually with the Hard Rock ability Ice and Ground hit Rhyperior for normal damage.
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Mon May 07, 2007 7:45 am |
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Saanaito
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:52 am Posts: 330 Location: Saturn!
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Actually, Solid Rock decreases the damage from super-effective attacks by 33%.
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Mon May 07, 2007 2:11 pm |
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Centreri
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 103
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Depends if you want a tank that's not too good against spec. attacks or a sweeper. Speed is essential for a sweeper, and if you're only eyeing Rhyperior's superior attack power and weighing it against it's speed, I'd say Garchomp for sure. However, Rhyperior's ability and defensive capabilities also make it somewhat of a tank, something with the physical power of beyond that of a Tyranitar, if it comes to a contest of pure attack power. However, once you're up against something that can survive two of your attacks and has a high spec. attack, your Rhyperior would be up a river without a paddle, while a Garchomp would have a high chance of winning.
In other words: Rhyperior for exchanging blows with attack-oriented pokemon, Garchomp for overall capabilities and sweeping.
I tell ya'... imagining how my soon-to-be Aerodacyl would fare against something like a Rhyperion is intimidating. However, that's what Dusknoir's are for . He'd rip that apart.
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Mon May 07, 2007 3:18 pm |
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Perigrynn
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:18 pm Posts: 20
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I would go with Garchomp. Ice beam takes out Garchomp, but both surf and giga drain take our Rhyperior. I come to you as a person whose raised a rhydon up and found relief in an evo, and a person without even a gible.
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Tue May 08, 2007 7:36 am |
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Saanaito
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:52 am Posts: 330 Location: Saturn!
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Perigrynn wrote: but both surf and giga drain take our Rhyperior.
No way. With Rhyperior's new ability, it eats those for breakfast. Look at these damage calculations from Smogon forums. He is a great heavy hitter.
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Tue May 08, 2007 12:20 pm |
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FaceLess
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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According to that damage calculation.
Surf should still kill it.
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Tue May 08, 2007 12:36 pm |
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threedaysgracevs
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:59 pm Posts: 46
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I like Garchomp more...but, whatever you want is cool..
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Wed May 09, 2007 6:46 pm |
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the best trainer
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 12:13 pm Posts: 129 Location: The Power Plant
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i think you should add rhyperior.
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Wed May 09, 2007 7:29 pm |
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aqua_boy350
Fails at life
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:50 am Posts: 110 Location: AnyWheRE
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If I were you i'd pick garchomp. Any way its your choice.
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Thu May 10, 2007 2:07 am |
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Pibb Master
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 7:24 pm Posts: 32
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garchomp: much more speed > Little more atk
Dragon>>Rock/Ground
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Thu May 10, 2007 7:42 pm |
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Perigrynn
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:18 pm Posts: 20
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Saanaito wrote: Perigrynn wrote: but both surf and giga drain take our Rhyperior.
No way. With Rhyperior's new ability, it eats those for breakfast. Look at these damage calculations from Smogon forums. He is a great heavy hitter.
I couldn't go through your link. However, considering what is using it, and how it is trained, are giant factors. I know of it's ability, but I will argue that both of what I said are SP ATKs, and not ATKs, so it's massive DEF doesn't come into play. And even if giga drain won't finish it, it's a buffet of health they just helped themselves to.
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Fri May 11, 2007 4:42 pm |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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Let's analyze the statistics here, shall we? I'll write with help from the Psydex.
(The only reason I don't include TMs is that any n00b could put a TM on a Pokemon to make it better. Not that all TMs are bad, of course.)
Garchomp (Dragon/Ground)
2 Weaknesses: Dragon, Ice (x4)
3 Resistances: Fire, Poison, Rock
1 Immunity: Electric
Ability: Sand Veil (Evade ups in Sandstorm)
Good level-up moves: Slash, Dragon Claw, Crunch, Dragon Rush
Base Stats: HP 108, Atk 130, Def 95, Spd 102, SpAtk 80, SpDef 85
Rhyperior (Ground/Rock)
6 Weaknesses: Ice, Fighting, Ground, Steel, Water (x4), Grass (x4)
5 Resistances: Normal, Fire, Flying, Rock, Poison (x.25)
1 Immunity: Electric
Abilities: Lightning Rod (attracts all Elec moves in 2-on-2, negates in Rhyperior's case), or Solid Rock (reduces damage from super-effective attacks)
Good level-up moves: Stone Edge, Earthquake, Megahorn
Base Stats: HP 115, Atk 140, Def 130, Spd 40, SpAtk 55, SpDef 55
My opinion: If you fear Electric types in a 2-on-2 battle, Rhyperior w/Lightning Rod + Gyarados is a good combo, considering Gyarados only takes heavy damage from Electric moves. Personally I would choose Garchomp, as Speed and SpDef are good stats to have. Also, since most Grass and Water attacks are special, Rhyperior gets owned by them. (He has no need of SpAtk.) I don't like slow Pokemon at all (except Shuckle) so I'd go Garchomp. Besides, its stat total is on the level of an uber.
But if you would ever Wi-Fi battle me, put them both away, as I love Kyogre, which owns them both in the blink of an eye.
Of course, the decision is ultimately up to you.
- DNA
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Fri May 11, 2007 5:44 pm |
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Da best
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:50 am Posts: 40 Location: N da Land trainin
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I go wif Garchomp
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Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:28 pm |
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Valentine
Pokemon Master
Joined: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:59 pm Posts: 2399 Location: feel the mambo
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This hasn't been posted in since May.
Don't revive old threads.
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Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:51 pm |
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