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1. If you're having trouble with a team against the E4, check the guide for tips, and if that doesn't help, post it here. You should post detailed so people may help as good as possible, preferably using the "standard" form:

Pokemon Name/picture {name} @ Item
Nature, EVs
~Move 1
~Move 2
~Move 3
~Move 4

Pokemon Name/picture {name} @ Item
Nature, Evs
~Move 1
...


It would also help if you filled in stuff like:
- What TMs you have acces to
- What games - and so pokemon - you have access to
- What elites you are having especially trouble against
- etc.


2. Feedback on teams that people have posted. Read thoroughly through what info they have provided, before giving tips.

3. Things you think should be in the "Beating the E4 Guide". Help out with teams, suggestions, etc..




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We now concentrate on the E4 Debut, not the second time deafeat+ E4.


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Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:53 am
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A good E4 team is {gengar} {machamp} {zapdos} {articuno} {pidgeot} and of course your starter Pokemon.

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Pokemaniac wrote:
A good E4 team is {gengar} {machamp} {zapdos} {articuno} {pidgeot} and of course your starter Pokemon.


Perhaps you can provide a more detailed description, like w/ movesets?


Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:33 pm
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Yeah ok then sure....

{gengar}
~Thunder Bolt
~Psychic
~Destiny Bond
~Giga Drain

{zapdos}
~Drill Peck
~Thunder Bolt
~Light Screen
~Detect

{articuno}
~Ice Beam
~Water Pulse
~Reflect
~Aerial Ace

{machamp}
~Bulk Up
~Cross Chop
~Earth Quake
~Rock Slide

{pidgeot}
~Wing Attack
~Return
~Steel Wing
~Agility

And your starter could be something like...

{venusaur}
~Earth Quake
~Sludge Bomb
~Sleep Powder
~Leech Seed

{charizard}
~Wing Attack
~Flame Thrower
~Dragon Claw
~Earth Quake

{blastoise}
~Surf
~Earth Quake
~Ice Beam
~Rapid Spin

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Good, I'll look into it later. I was thinking we could have like, some teams with their descriptions and such and try to make them as easy to obtain as possible.


Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:51 pm
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Or Gengar > Alakazam is good too


Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:36 pm
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My team (by the time I get there) will be:

{gengar}
Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball
Dream Eater
Thunderbolt

{jynx}
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Psychic
Lovely Kiss

{nidoking}
Megahorn
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Seismic Toss

{dodrio}
Tri Attack
Fly
Aerial Ace
Toxic

{kingler} (hm slave)
Surf
Rock Smash
Strength
Cut

{clefable}
Meteor Smash
Light Screen
Thunder Wave
Hyper Beam

Not the best sets or Pokemon - but I think they'll do well =]

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Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:17 pm
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i think a well balanced team is good.


Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:23 am
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Instead of barely contributing with a borderline spam response, care to give a little more to the conversation, perhaps, by explaining yourself?


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I cant stress this enough get {articuno} ice beam will destroy lance

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Pokemaniac:

NEVER USE PIDGEOT, IT IS OUCLASSED BY FEAROW AND DODRIO!!!
Also, use at least one psychic (Alakazam, Hypno, etc).
Lapras > Articuno (t-bolt, ice beam, surf)
Charizard needs Brick Break, not dragon claw. If you can breed for dragon dance, swords dance, or rock slide, it'd be good to do for the 2nd time you beat the elites.

Some helpful hints:
1.) Never use 1 time tms, as they have better uses (link battle, etc). Instead, breed or use an alternative move.
2.) Don't use the tutors - see "why not to use one time tms".


Bbl to deal w/ topher


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I go with
{charizard}
flamethrower
dragonclaw/heatwave
fireblast
overheat
{nidoking}
shadowball
EQ
icebeam
irontail
{arcanine}
flamethrower
fireblast
extreamspeed
sunnyday/overheat
{gyarados}
hydropump
thunder
rainydance
hyperbeam
{hypno}
shadowball
psychic
hypnose
dreameater
{raichu}
thunder
thunderbolt
irontail
protect(I change after the E4)

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I only need a pokemon to beat the elite four:

{charizard} @Shell bell or chery berry.
Jolly. Trained mostly against pokemon that give attack or speed EV.
-Bellydrum
-Brick break
-Wing attack
-Earthquake

There you have, just survive the first hit and sweep the rest of their team. (level 55-60 if posible).

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I tinkered with my previous sets (i got anxious)

I'm fighting the E4 as I type.

I have:

{haunter}/{gengar} (haven't traded him yet)
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Thunderbolt
Giga Drain

{jynx}
Ice Beam
Psychic
Calm Mind
Lovely Kiss

{nidoking}
Flamethrower
Brick Break
Earthquake
Megahorn

I haven't used the other three. I always end up using a selected few when I fight the E4... go figure. x____x

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