...WELL, YEAH...

-feels famous-

The poisoning was an afterthought
And I meant getting attacked with knives...
I'm innocent, kthnxbai

Make way for pencil-stabbing videogames. That ain't sinning, it would seem. And late-effect poison is starting to sound okay as well.

But actually, I... agree with oh_jess's post (not the latter, the former). Although I doubt Adam and Eve would have anything to do with this. I stick to what I, and some more people, said previously: it's about knowing the difference between games and real life. You don't go around "murderizing" people after 1 hour of playing halo. Videogames let us do things that would be reprimandable in real life (and, because of human nature, doing that which we usually aren't alowed to gives us an immense pleasure...), but as long as you can tell the difference, I don't think playing violent videogames is sin. And I don't think it was sin in itself that influenced videogames, but any kind of real life restriction can be put in a game and make us love it. You get my point.

I'm sorry, but this really grinds my gears... You guys, go read the Bible. Satan didn't tempt Eve. A snake tempted Eve. Whether or not it was some sort of demon, the Bible does not say, but it was NOT Satan. The real Satan is an adversary of God whose job it was to test Mankind for God. In Christianity and the New Testament, Satan is the Devil, the embodyment of all evil and the enemy of mankind and God. This evil devil Satan does NOT appear in the old testament, and he did NOT tempt Eve. A snake did.

That is all.

what part of this bible verse do you not get

call him who he is

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:9

Right, so Nido's saying that Satan didn't appear in the Old Testament. You are disputing this with a verse from the New Testament.

I'm not seeing any problems here.

Sorry for grinding you.
It was Satan in the form of a snake, if you didn't already know that.

Well, I allways thought it was Lillith who was the snake in the tree, but whatever.

Anyway, I CAN'T BELIEVE NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS!!1!1!1

Yes, I The Seven Sins.

These sins are my encounters with sin, and as I see, you're only adressing one sin, Wrath.
Again, the fighting and killing in video games, in my opinion, are reflections of the human desires. Humans, being a social species, care about what other people think about them, so they feel they must prove something. Many people are too afraid to go out and do something important, often held back by the veiws of others. By playing the video games, and killing the enemies, or "evil," it gives them a sense of accomplishment. With this new-gained self esteem, they feel much happier. Also, killing these "demons" and bad-guys in video games, would make them feel like they are killing the less "perfect parts" of themselves, or the parts of them they are unhappy about. This gives them the pride of accomplisment, through they did not to benefit the "real" world. False pride, a bad thing. It can cause fights, and lots of other things.

Okay, I lied. Now there are two sins in the mix, Pride and Wrath.

BUT WAIT, THERE IS MORE.

ENVY, my favorite sin, is also personified in Video games. The players envy the success of the hero in video games, keeping them playing. This, is perhaps, why people love to read fiction and play video games, to find a sort of alter ego that they sort of associate themselves with, to make them feel better.

FOR EXAMPLE:
I love the game Animal Crossing. Why? Well, it's super fun, but it also reflects myself. In AC, the "hero" is on their own, and generally free of resitraints. If you don't like something, you can just time travel away from it. This reflects my inner desires, to live in blissful ignorance.

Ok, so that was my little rant on The Seven Sins and Video games. So, I most likely took this topic very differently than the other readers. I, not being all religous, won't quote scripture on you.

OVERALL: I found three sins majorly involved in video games, Wrath, Pride, and Envy. Again, I'm using these Seven Sins as my basis for sin because i'm not uber religous. I feel however, that these sins make people happy, and occupy them. So, if I went too off track, just let me know. (((The section on pride is a little onclear, sorry about that)))

No. It was a snake. Period. Satan does not even enter into this until the New Testament.

nido said the satan is not the snake i am quoting a verse that disputes that and satan is mentioned in the old testement

And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. 1 Ch 21: 1

i quoted that to did you guys even read my post

and yes they are the same read Rev 12:9

*EDIT* come to think of it calling the serpent satan says he was in the garden of eden thats at the beginning of the old testment

if you dont belive my posts look up the referances they are in there

*EDIT 2*
Ok here is some 3rd party junk though I don

Sorry for the biggiantwquotebox.
BUT.

So, you're saying that a snake - a normal, unintelligent snake - tempted Eve to eat this fruit? And, also you're saying that Satan didn't exist until The New Testament?

(:
If Satan didn't exist until the New Testament, then who created sin? Certainly not God. He wanted a perfect world. SATAN (who can appear in many different forms) created sin. SATAN tempted Eve. Eve chose to eat the fruit. Thus sin enters the world.



AND ALSO ...
There are several video games that are just pushing it. I mean, there's the whole blowing up cars, blowing up people, blowing up buildings, slashing people, mutliating demons, shooting people, robbing, stealing, ETC.

But, I think Grand Theft Auto is pushing it.
It's the fact that it isn't at all fantasy. It's the fact that it's tied into the real world. It's what you can do in those video games (You know what I'm talking about :/). There are lots of people who will play that over and over and become desensitized to it. COLUMBINESHOOTINGS,OMG.

I know that the Columbine shootings weren't solely because of violence in video games... But it was a factor. Evenifitwasasmallone.


So yeah (:
But all of you are going to say 'BUT U STABBED SOME1 WIT A PENCIL, OMG. U R SO 2 FACED'

Uhm. No. You don't know me.

Oyur right, sin is why things are the way they are......... but good is pointless without bad... thnk. like somepeople want world pease...

World pease would suck!

there would be no one dying, there would be 50 billion people all on one planit.... this planit would be bad without sin, because we would have distroyed earth by now......... besides if there was no sin, you would not mind playing games of bunny tag...... you would never be exposed to much else.... you might love that game......

besides, how could we prove ourselfs loyal to god without any tests?

Just to clarify: If there wasn't sin, we would have no desire to be with the someone. It makes no difference either way. And another thing, It isn't exactly a sin inside of the bindings of marriage.

YEAH WE'D WANT TO BE WITH SOMEONE.
Just, not lust. We'd want to have a partner, which is why God created EVE for ADAM (:

Haha. That reminded me of that one homophobic video where it was all 'God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.'
Steve was pretty goodlooking.

But anyways.
PICHU: Without sin we would've destroyed the earth? Uhm, hello. Take a look at the ozone layer. We're going to destroy it.

yeah.... we are, but its taking longer XD

with ,like 50 billion people, we would all starve to death, and would have used all the earths resaurses by now....

Probably not.
Remember the whole 'God turning one loaf of bread and five fish' (or maybe it was the other way around..) into a whole feast? WITH LEFTOVERS?

I don't think we'd starve.
&& With a perfect world, we wouldn't need to worry about a lack of anything. God made the world. He can easily provide for our needs, imo.

I am a christian talkling from both a cristian and an aithiests point of veiws at the same time...... somethings wrong with this picture XD

yea... without sin god could provide for us....

But he provides for us now.
With sin ....

LAWLZWAYOFFTOPICNOW.
I think.

well the topic was abbout sin and video games..... atleast we are talking about sin... so we are not far of topic XD

anyway, yeah, and killing some one on a game is not like killing a real person.

killing some one on a video cann't usualy "desensitize" you about killing, usualy you have to be desensitized before playing it....

When you kill people over and over nad over and over
....and over....

It stops being like 'OMG I KILLED YOU. D: SRY.'
It's more like 'OMGOMG DIE. HAH.'

P:
That's what happened to me.

Doing things we're not supposed to gives us a rush that we enjoy. Yay endorphines! Rewarding our horrible behavior since... forever!

And if you wanna get all debate-y, there are no sins if you're agnostic like moi. Lust is just basic instinct. As is wrath. And sloth. And so forth.


Video games will let you shoot puppies riding dinosaurs. Real life will not. Video games let you be a sick puppy-killer without incuring the wrath of society. Sweet deal, ne?