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SYDNEY - Researchers in Australia have discovered that honey bees have the ability to count — at least to the number four.

A scientist from the University of Queensland put five markers inside a tunnel and placed nectar in one of them, Australian Broadcasting Corporation radio reported.

Honey bees placed in the tunnel flew to the marker with the food, and would still fly to the same marker stripe when the food was removed.

"We find that if you train them to the third stripe, they will look subsequently in the third stripe," researcher Mandyam Srinivasan said.

"If you train them to the fourth stripe, they will look the fourth stripe and so on. But their ability to count seems to go only up to four. They can't count beyond four.

"The more we look at these creatures that have a brain the size of a sesame seed, the more astonished we are. They really have a lot of the capacities that we so-called higher human beings possess."

The research was carried out jointly with Swedish researcher Marie Dacke.


I for one welcome our new counting bee overlords.

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ah but i am defended with a canister of bug repellent and the ability to say pi and count to a greater number the number called 8. (dun dun dun)


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I think it's wonderful that they waste money on research like this, instead of you know, useful stuff like curing cancer.

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Toasty wrote:
I think it's wonderful that they waste money on research like this, instead of you know, useful stuff like curing cancer.


Seconded.


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Horses can count. Why is it so amazing that bees can?

What a waste of money.

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All I can say about this is that scientists have officially run out of good ideas when they start checking if bugs can count.
What's next, a rock that can add the numbers 0+0?

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ShinyHunter07 wrote:
Horses can count. Why is it so amazing that bees can?

What a waste of money.


Because "bees have brains the size of sesame seeds". >.>

But I agree, its a pretty enormous waste of cash.

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Wow, these "scientists" are retarded. I have no idea what they plan to do with this "knowledge." Bees rely on physical structures/markings to find food/honey/whatever... Indeed a waste of money. :frustrated: I don't think I have any more faith in the human race... :cry:


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It's just some bees, nectar, and markers. I don't think this cost as much as you guys think it did.

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I don't know anyone (besides the scientists) that would be overwelmed with facination that bees can count to 4. Even though they count higher than me.... :frustrated:


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Ok, fine. Point taken. However, I never actually said I thought they wasted a lot of money, but rather they wasted money. Period. :D


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Anyone else notice how everyone just repeated what Toasty said? :O

And Jerry Seinfail made me hate bees. >:(


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Toasty wrote:
I think it's wonderful that they waste money on research like this, instead of you know, useful stuff like curing cancer.


Because Anthropologists are the key for curing cancer? I'll leave that to people who study the human body, not bugs. Though I agree the study is silly.

..but you know, counting bees today are tomorrow's killer assassins that can strike four people in a preset order. :lol:

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MasterChef wrote:
Toasty wrote:
I think it's wonderful that they waste money on research like this, instead of you know, useful stuff like curing cancer.


Because Anthropologists are the key for curing cancer? I'll leave that to people who study the human body, not bugs. Though I agree the study is silly.

..but you know, counting bees today are tomorrow's killer assassins that can strike four people in a preset order. :lol:


Well if they find out how to cure cancer in bess they can find out how to cure cancer in us.


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Why are all the comments so negative? I personally find bees' counting abilities rather interesting.
By finding out what "lower" lifeforms can do, and how, may help in understanding how some things in humans' brains work. :P

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Hey guys.

Has it occured to any of you that perhaps the people who funded this were interested in the mental functions of bees and could do what they damn well wanted with their money? Or perhaps even, they merely wanted to discover knowledge for the sake of knowledge?

Don't worry, I'm sure that lots and lots of money is being spent on a cure for cancer.

Anyway, I read this in the paper earlier. Quite cool, really, although I wonder what the use is of only being able to count four objects. :/

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Mewtwelve wrote:
I personally find bees' counting abilities rather interesting.
By finding out what "lower" lifeforms can do, and how, may help in understanding how some things in humans' brains work. :P


I am actually very interested in scientists finding out how smart animals really are, thus showing how stupid we humans were by not figuring out sooner that we aren't as much smarter than everything else on earth.
I guess it just sounds kind of random that this week's big scientific discovery is that bees can count to the number four.

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The main problem is that is the first step. Soon enough they'll be cyborg bees bent on human destruction. In fact here is one of the prototypes.

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Because Anthropologists are the key for curing cancer? I'll leave that to people who study the human body, not bugs.


ANTHROPOLOGIST = STUDY OF HUMANS AND HUMAN CULTURE

ENTOMOLOGY = STUDY OF BUGS

okay thanks

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Kirke wrote:
MasterChef wrote:


Because Anthropologists are the key for curing cancer? I'll leave that to people who study the human body, not bugs.


ANTHROPOLOGIST = STUDY OF HUMANS AND HUMAN CULTURE

ENTOMOLOGY = STUDY OF BUGS

okay thanks



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how much money do you actually think that cost, if your going to complain about the money not going to curing cancer, if you really care that much, why don't you all disconnect your internet sell your computers and gameboys, and donate the lot.
I for one thrive on this info, I mean who wouldn't want to know how high a bee can count, soon they'll take over the world, and then mabye count to five, MOWAHAHAHA!!!!


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what if there come along a genius bee that can cout to 10. think of the possablilties....

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